Jennifer Skeldon wrote 04/04/2009 07:13 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234832 - 04/04/2009 07:13 PM
Jennifer Skeldon Webboard User Reg: 07-08-2008 Posts: 229 Loc: Oregon Offline	I'm so glad this was posted!!! I'm moving in a few weeks and want a nice restraint system in case of an accident. I'm thinking of being the guinea pig for the champion harness, as I live close to Denver and show up on the doorstep if I don't get my product. Connie and Mike, why this restraint over the leerburg agitator harness? I like that it has padding just in case...curious on your thoughts  Quote: from champion web description Following extensive research and testing, we created a harness that offers you the convenience and versatility of a quick-release design, and your dog the protection and comfort of a specially engineered safety/athletic harness with wide straps and quality hardware. quick release? Like the collars? That doesn't seem safe for car-use...
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 07:41 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Jennifer Skeldon ] #234836 - 04/04/2009 07:41 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jennifer Skeldon I'm so glad this was posted!!! I'm moving in a few weeks and want a nice restraint system in case of an accident. I'm thinking of being the guinea pig for the champion harness, as I live close to Denver and show up on the doorstep if I don't get my product. Connie and Mike, why this restraint over the leerburg agitator harness? I like that it has padding just in case...curious on your thoughts  Quote: from champion web description Following extensive research and testing, we created a harness that offers you the convenience and versatility of a quick-release design, and your dog the protection and comfort of a specially engineered safety/athletic harness with wide straps and quality hardware. quick release? Like the collars? That doesn't seem safe for car-use... I guess that I'm confused. The agitation harness is also a car-restraint thing? I admit that I did not even know that. Perhaps someone else can answer that? If it is, then maybe I have had it under my nose all this time and just didn't know it. The quick release: Scroll down here to see it; it's not like the collars that I think you mean: http://www.champk-9.com/CCSS.htm
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JessicaKromer wrote 04/04/2009 07:59 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Jennifer Skeldon ] #234839 - 04/04/2009 07:59 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	Quote: Jennifer Skeldon Connie and Mike, why this restraint over the leerburg agitator harness? I like that it has padding just in case...curious on your thoughts I just want to reiterate that I do not use the agitation harness as a complete restraint system. I use it as the harness part of a two part system. The tether part (the one I linked to above) hooks to the car and snaps onto a harness. Connects the dog to the car. I chose to use the Leerburg agitation harness instead of the one that they make/sell. The champion system does the same thing, but with a different harness and a different tether. I tried to order from them first, but never received my order. I totally trust what I use now, as it has been officially real life tested. The dog survived and was secure in the car, the car did not survive... Also, MHO is that a crate is the best for any dog... I just can't make one fit! Jessica
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 08:06 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: JessicaKromer ] #234840 - 04/04/2009 08:06 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: JessicaKromer The tether part (the one I linked to above) hooks to the car and snaps onto a harness. Connects the dog to the car. ...I chose to use the Leerburg agitation harness instead of the one that they make/sell. ... Also, MHO is that a crate is the best for any dog... I just can't make one fit! OHHHHH. Sorry; I missed something, but I see now what you're saying. I was replying to Mike's Champion post and didn't read the prior posts. Sorry. And yes, the crate is number one, but some cars (like the 1965 Mustang and other cars) often need a different setup.
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Jennifer Skeldon wrote 04/04/2009 09:18 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234845 - 04/04/2009 09:18 PM
Jennifer Skeldon Webboard User Reg: 07-08-2008 Posts: 229 Loc: Oregon Offline	Thanks Connie, I saw their explanation, but the picture must not have loaded. I now see that it attaches to two metal rings and has a quick release to get on and off. Jessica, Is the wool padding, or just something to prevent from rubbing? It seems like the Amish leather is GREAT quality and construction, and that is what leads me toward that harness vs nylon. Sorry to hear about the car, but that is tried and true quality harness. Oh and Connie, that's a fancy car you've got there Not all of us can afford vintage mustangs.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 09:27 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Jennifer Skeldon ] #234848 - 04/04/2009 09:27 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jennifer Skeldon Not all of us can afford vintage mustangs. Well, I sure can't! However, what if someone bought it in 1968 or 1969 when it was just a used car? Hypothetically.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 09:38 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Jennifer Skeldon ] #234850 - 04/04/2009 09:38 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: jennifer skeldon Thanks Connie, I saw their explanation, but the picture must not have loaded. I now see that it attaches to two metal rings and has a quick release to get on and off. .... It seems like the Amish leather is GREAT quality and construction, and that is what leads me toward that harness vs nylon. .... (1) Yes, "quick release" doesn't mean "might unsnap on its own" in this case. (2) Now it's all clear to me! LOL! Does the tether part of yours swivel completely?
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Jennifer Skeldon wrote 04/04/2009 10:28 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234851 - 04/04/2009 10:28 PM
Jennifer Skeldon Webboard User Reg: 07-08-2008 Posts: 229 Loc: Oregon Offline	Quote: However, what if someone bought it in 1968 or 1969 when it was just a used car? Hypothetically. Either way I want a ride
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JessicaKromer wrote 04/04/2009 11:34 PM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234856 - 04/04/2009 11:34 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	Jennifer, the wool is both padding and to prevent rubbing but the leather rarely rubs much though, even on all of the non-padded harnesses. Leather works better than nylon in that way. The only damage was that two of the eye bolts or grommet thingys or whatever they are called broke. The two on top that separate the straps around the neck and the straps around the chest. I still use the harness sometimes, I keep meaning to get around to ordering a new one from Leerburg… Connie, no, it does not swivel. That is the one thing I would change. And I do like the snap that hooks to the dog on the Champion one a bit more. But I love the way mine snaps to the latch bar better. It is an easier and quicker way to attach and detach. And try as I might, you can’t fit a crate in the back of an ’08 Charger either. Now I am just hoping two adult male Rotts will fit… Jessica
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Kristel Smart wrote 04/05/2009 11:41 AM Re: Car restraint (Doggy Seatbelt) [Re: JessicaKromer ] #234874 - 04/05/2009 11:41 AM
Kristel Smart Webboard User Reg: 10-03-2006 Posts: 1548 Loc: Vermont Offline	I can't get a crate in my '94 corolla wagon either (yeah, I know. Not a cool car but it's paid for and runs:-) Is it safer to use a restraint system in the rear seat than to have the dog behind a barrier in the back of a wagon? I like that it's like having a built in crate, but I have some concerns about what would happen if I were rear-ended.
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