Connie Sutherland wrote 04/06/2009 11:42 AM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #234975 - 04/06/2009 11:42 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Alyssa Myracle Assuming she did get a random flea bite, how would one begin reversing the resultant fall-out? Both sides and not in the usual flea area (along spine, at base of tail, etc.) -- fleas just dropped down on the list, for me.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/06/2009 11:46 AM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234976 - 04/06/2009 11:46 AM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Well, according to what I can find, pollen season begins around the same time Danke's itching did. It would seem to corrolate, though I cannot find the actual counts for Feb/Mar to determine whether it actually WAS high, but apparently the tree pollen season does begin in February. If it was pollen, would it present this way?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/06/2009 11:47 AM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #234977 - 04/06/2009 11:47 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: alyssa myracle  Quote: natalya zahn Could she maybe have brushed through something irritating on a walk in the woods or something? How about any new training aides that might come into recent, frequent contact with her knees? I'm wondering if perhaps... there is some overgrown weedy-type stuff along our back fence behind the shed that she frequently bounds through to "visit" the neighbors pitbull through the fence. You'd think it would irritate her belly as well, since the contact should be over her entire underside and all legs. I'll pull all that crap out of there and see if that helps. If not, at least my yard will look a little better. Remember that it's probably not contact allergy you're looking for. Dogs rarely have contact allergies. What is more likely is picking up pollen or other allergens on the body and then having it in her "air" 24/7, making it a constant inhalant. Can you check between her toes for redness?
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/06/2009 11:49 AM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234978 - 04/06/2009 11:49 AM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Quote: connie sutherland Can you check between her toes for redness? Yep. No redness, no irritation and she could care less about licking or chewing on her feet. The only spot she cares about chewing is her rear legs, mostly the knees, though I'm noticing that the feathering on the back of her "trousers" seems much thinner (could be seasonal shedding, could be chewing) so she may be chewing there too, without me seeing.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/06/2009 11:58 AM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #234980 - 04/06/2009 11:58 AM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	So, we've established that this probably isn't flea hypersensitivity. Diet looks okay? Salmon Oil/E levels are good? Could we stand to up them more and see if that helps? If everything else seems okay, I guess we'll start the process with the vet of testing and eliminating environmental inhalent allergies... I just want to rule out any other potential cause before we start poking and prodding her at the Vet's office. (She's not a huge fan.) I'm also thinking a second set of knee x-rays... although if it was a pain reaction, wouldn't it be licking rather than chewing?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/06/2009 12:05 PM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #234981 - 04/06/2009 12:05 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	How bad is the scratching? Interrupted sleep? I'd probably go the whole environmental-allergy route described here so many times of rinsing, trial anthistamines, cleaning paws and undercarriage of pollens before coming inside, laundering her bedding, etc., vacuuming and tossing that vacuum bag, etc. Then I'd want a scraping (lifting) of skin cells looked at under the 'scope. But this: Salmon Oil: 300 mg daily must be a typo. Did you mean 3000? How much does she weigh again?
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/06/2009 12:13 PM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234982 - 04/06/2009 12:13 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	No interrupted sleep.  Quote: Connie Sutherland But this: Salmon Oil: 300 mg daily must be a typo. Did you mean 3000? Actually, it's just my really crappy math trying to figure out how much Salmon Oil is in three pumps (Grizzly). I lost a zero somewhere. (I usually do. Drives my husband batty.) She hovers between 65 and 70 lbs, and I've been giving three pumps daily of the Grizzly Alaskan Salmon Oil. Edited by (04/06/2009 12:18 PM) Edit reason: ETA: We have the BIG bottle of Grizzly, 32oz
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/06/2009 12:25 PM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #234983 - 04/06/2009 12:25 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	So .... let's make it easy. (I always forget the Grizzly pump amount, and it varies between the bottle sizes too) ..... is she getting about one and one third teaspoons?
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/06/2009 12:35 PM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234985 - 04/06/2009 12:35 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	I would wager shes getting more than that. Probably closer to 2+ tsp a day. (I'm sitting here at work picturing teaspoons in my head... and how much is in each pump, LOL)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/06/2009 01:54 PM Re: Itching/Chewing [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #235002 - 04/06/2009 01:54 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	When you get home, can you look at the skin there and check for bumps, redness, etc.? I wonder -- does she do it in the middle of, say, training, when otherwise occupied? P.S. Food would probably be very low on my list of possible triggers in this case.
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