LOL, Jennifer.
I know from where you come.
Ya want to know a secret? That day Cassie was wearing all three collars. Yeah see if you can find them. One fur saver, one pinch, and one e-collar. See if you can find even one in the pic.
Doug- I think you may be too concerned with the minutia of dog training.... and I say that with all due respect and no offense intended.
Suzzie is not pulling because the collar is too high, too low, not tight enough or too tight. She's pulling because you let her.
In my totally uneducated opinion, the prong collar riding as high as possible on the neck increases it's effectiveness, but doesn't mean a low riding prong won't be effective.
Ginger DEFINITELY responds quicker to a high riding prong - because of leverage- but if her collar slips down and she decides she wants to chase a squirrel, car, etc, she learns very quickly that location of the prong collar means nothing.
I hope this didn't come across rudely. I'm happy you're concerned with getting Suzzie the best possible training and looking into details.... hmmmm reminds me of someone I know.
There are three constants in life: Death, taxes and the love of a dog.
Doug- I think you may be too concerned with the minutia of dog training.... and I say that with all due respect and no offense intended.
LOL, no doubt! As a computer programmer it's the minutia that I cling to in daily life. Drives my wife batty too. I'm trying not to be too obsessive about training Suzzie, really I am!
Well Doug,
I can't resist this any longer.
I know at the beginning of the thread you said you only wanted to address the fit of the collar. It started gnawing on me with the Mike H. post and has carried over the last day or so......so now I'm going to reopen it, with if not a why at least a wherefore.
Firstly, Walking the dog in one part of the day with a different criteria then in another hour of the day only serves to confuse the dog. Consistency, consistency, consistency.
If you're pressed for time in the morning, start the walk earlier.
The pinch collar is not designed to 'stop pulling'. It is designed as a communication tool. If you don't communicate to the dog what you want before the correction, the dog learns little.
IF you've decided that negative enforcement is the route you want to follow, you must still correct the dog verbally BEFORE the psychical correction comes about, self corrected or not.
The idea is to teach the dog to LISTEN. No matter if the methodology is negative or positive enforcement. You must be engaged with the dog in either case.
You like minutia?
Walking a dog self correcting on the end of a leash is not training of any kind.
It was hard to take this photo while we were walking! However, it shows she's pulling ever so slightly. At the least she's walking right at the forward edge of where the leash will reach. As we're walking I can feel the leash tighten up and then slack a little as we step along. So the tension isn't much, but it's there.
Maybe I do need to tighten it up another link so she won't learn to pull through the prong. However, with only 4 links left in the collar is that enough to still do it's job?
Nora,
With hard work and patience it WILL happen!
It just takes years and years....and years...........and years...........and yeeeeears to get as good as Connie!
ALL correction collars will function better when they are high on the neck, right behing the ears.
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