Vanessa Dibernar wrote 05/21/2009 04:54 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting it. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #240677 - 05/21/2009 04:54 PM
Vanessa Dibernar Webboard User Reg: 03-19-2007 Posts: 206 Loc: Mesa, AZ Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland Vanessa, if you are not seeing all-liquid or all-thin-pudding poops, and the pup is hydrated (do you know how to check?), then I think that a slow and careful re-start with no fat for a day or so after the white rice does its work is going to work out fine. I want to stress that when I say soupy rice, I mean cooked to death. It should be almost-not-separate-grains. Rice has a binding effect, and the looser the rice, the better. So should I do just rice, chicken necks and pro-biotics for a few days? There is almost no fat on the necks. They LOVE the food, they have appetite increase and great energy levels.
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Vanessa Dibernar wrote 05/21/2009 04:55 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting it. [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240678 - 05/21/2009 04:55 PM
Vanessa Dibernar Webboard User Reg: 03-19-2007 Posts: 206 Loc: Mesa, AZ Offline	Check for hydration by pinching on neck skin and seeing how quickly it goes back to normal?
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steve strom wrote 05/21/2009 05:07 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting it. [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240680 - 05/21/2009 05:07 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	No, it went smooth with my Rott and now it's going well with my Shepherd.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/21/2009 05:28 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240689 - 05/21/2009 05:28 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Vanessa Dibernar ... So should I do just rice, chicken necks and pro-biotics for a few days? There is almost no fat on the necks. They LOVE the food, they have appetite increase and great energy levels. I would go with soupy rice and all-white (breast) poultry meat, added in near the end of the rice-cooking. No skin, no fat. Very small but more frequent meals. Nothing else (pro-biotics OK, though) until you see normal poop, which should happen tomorrow. (White meat, of course, has far less fat than the rest of the bird, even with the skin peeled off.) I'd really want the puppy's gut to be soothed before adding the fat of the dark meat back in, and it should not take long. It's true that bones help to firm up the poop, but of course you don't cook bones for dogs, and right now, I'd go with the soupy rice first.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/21/2009 05:29 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240690 - 05/21/2009 05:29 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Vanessa Dibernar .... They LOVE the food, they have appetite increase and great energy levels. Heck yeah! So let's get that wee-small-hours diarrhea taken care of asap.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/21/2009 05:31 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240691 - 05/21/2009 05:31 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Vanessa Dibernar ... I've been up with my 12 week old puppy every morning at like 4am letting her out to poop .... As for the time frame for pooping, that can be tweaked by adjusting the mealtimes.
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Vanessa Dibernar wrote 05/21/2009 05:58 PM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #240693 - 05/21/2009 05:58 PM
Vanessa Dibernar Webboard User Reg: 03-19-2007 Posts: 206 Loc: Mesa, AZ Offline	THANK YOU! I will try this tonight.
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Vanessa Dibernar wrote 05/22/2009 09:45 AM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240819 - 05/22/2009 09:45 AM
Vanessa Dibernar Webboard User Reg: 03-19-2007 Posts: 206 Loc: Mesa, AZ Offline	There were thunderstorms all last night, so after much debate I decided to wait to feed until this morning since I didn't want to be chasing my dogs around the yard in an Arizona monsoon so they could poop in the middle of the night. I took the rice, cooked the heck out of it and then put it in my chopper so it is pulverized. Then put some turkey breast and probiotics. Keeping my fingers crossed! So once tummies are settled go to just chicken backs for a few days and see how it goes?
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Tracy Collins wrote 05/22/2009 11:16 AM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Vanessa Dibernar ] #240829 - 05/22/2009 11:16 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	That's what I'd do. After you get everyone's gut settled down, just hit the restart button on the diet and pretend you're starting over from the beginning. One item at a time (backs are a perfect first food), and make sure each item is tolerated before adding anything new, including supplements. There is no need to rush the "variety" part of the diet. You'll get there. A dog can live (thrive) on just chicken backs for a week or two without any problems. It'll work. And once you get past this transition phase you and your dogs will all be happy with the switch. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Vanessa Dibernar wrote 05/22/2009 11:39 AM Re: Switched to Raw, 3 weeks ago, now regretting i [Re: Tracy Collins ] #240834 - 05/22/2009 11:39 AM
Vanessa Dibernar Webboard User Reg: 03-19-2007 Posts: 206 Loc: Mesa, AZ Offline	Thanks guys, after I read Connie's post again, I thought, did she intend me to cook the breast with the rice? Because what I did was give rice and raw chicken breast. But mostly rice. It was like turkey breast sashimi! They looked at me like, "what is this crap? Give me the bones!" Should I cook the chicken?
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