 Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Sheila Buckley ]
#241127 - 05/25/2009 07:11 PM |
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Neb's 13.5 months.
Huh, interesting about the rank. I just assumed it was b/c I'd created a Toby=nighttime barking and attention connection.
Toby loves all the dogs....he's not involved in training them but he has started doing some basic commands with Luc (b/c he was sick of Luc ignoring him if he asked him to sit or something).
Maybe I should ask Toby to do a short session with Neb when he's over - just 5 minutes - and then we can go for a walk and he can walk Neb.
Teagan!
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Sheila Buckley ]
#241129 - 05/25/2009 07:17 PM |
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There is enough to negotiate over with our dogs.....nothing better than the right tools and using them correctly. Not much you can mess up with a bark collar, they control the whole situation with their barking.....I'll never look back.....
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#241135 - 05/25/2009 07:59 PM |
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Maybe I should ask Toby to do a short session with Neb when he's over - just 5 minutes - and then we can go for a walk and he can walk Neb.
Toby seems like a nice man and you are very kind and considerate but in my opinion.......YOU rule YOUR roost!! Expect and enforce appropriate behavior towards Toby but hang onto the leadership reigns yourself. As an occassional overnight guest; there is no immediate need to incorporate Toby into the pack. Do I sound like a control-freak? 
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Sheila Buckley ]
#241138 - 05/25/2009 08:09 PM |
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But he doesn't behave inappropriately towards Toby while we're awake!!
What do I do to enforce this is if it is a pack thing? Toby is my long-term boyfriend (he was around before Neb!) so he is part of our lives and I plan for him to be for the future as well.
....you missed Toby freaking out the night Neb was sick. We were neither of us at our best....
Teagan!
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#241145 - 05/25/2009 08:35 PM |
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You know Jennifer, if it's just needing to shut him up I would put on the bark collar and not really try to figure out why he's barking. Whatever has gotten out of whack in your pack structure or anything else with Toby being over, Neb can quit barking and then adjust to Toby being there and he'll get over it.
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#241157 - 05/25/2009 10:20 PM |
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Or it could be something as simple as... he's discovered that "when I bark when Toby is here, mom comes in and gives me attention. I can get a midnight snack.... a midnight walk.... even a midnight 'what for'!"
He learned this accidentally by being sick, by coincidence Toby was there, and his barking led to what he thought of as a reward. Dogs can associate things in their brains and use these associations to their advantage. "When I do such and such, in exactly so and so conditions, I get this and that reward!"
Like a kid who gets a bellyache one night, gets to sleep in his parents bed or miss school or whatever, and suddenly always has a bellyache. 
Anyway, the reason isn't as important as to now show him that his barking will bring NO reward.
Ever heard of extinction behaviour? How it gets worse before getting better? You're probably going to have to spend a few nights of lost sleep. You've got a winner of a man if he'll help you work on this !!
Edited by Angela Burrell (05/25/2009 10:22 PM)
Edit reason: uhhh... apparently that was already your theory. Oops. Well, I agree...
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Angela Burrell ]
#241158 - 05/25/2009 10:29 PM |
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That's what I had thought - I'm embarrassed to admit just how much midnight attention he got while I tried to shut him up. If it had just been me, I would've let him bark, but Toby was not enjoying it.
Yeah, heard of extinction behaviour - I was hoping to avoid it Toby said he'd go in with me on the better bark collar but I'm going to charge up the dogtra e-collar first and give that a try....I don't really want Toby to have to pay for part of a bark collar. I mean, we're a family in a non-living together sense, but I do feel like the animals should be my responsibility, not his.
Teagan!
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#241368 - 05/26/2009 11:37 PM |
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What do I do to enforce this is if it is a pack thing? Toby is my long-term boyfriend (he was around before Neb!) so he is part of our lives and I plan for him to be for the future as well.
My bad Jen I thought Toby was new to your crew. Relative to my 22 years of marriage; I'll still say he is new. (trying to make excuses and not take responsibility for being choke, gag, gasp WRONG) 
I agree with Steve; put on the bark collar which should enforce no barking and they will adjust.
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: Sheila Buckley ]
#241609 - 05/28/2009 08:27 AM |
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My dog barks when I leave the house, and my neighbors (who work nights) were complaining quite a bit, so I had to get a quick fix, and used the citronella spray bark collar. It works and she doesn't even try to bark when she has it on. Only problem now is, she knows when it is on, and when it is not!
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Re: Help! With Neb's barking
[Re: jenn verrier ]
#241635 - 05/28/2009 12:00 PM |
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Hey Jen.
I know it is a bit late, but I have used the e-collar for Hav's barking in the morning. The timing is not a s good as a bark collar, especially when it is 5:00 in the AM and you are trying to fall back asleep for at least another hour... But it worked. I was able to adjust the stim to get him to stop.
Our REAL bark collar is on it's way as we speak...
Jessica
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