Should dog training be regulated better?

Simple answer- NO!!!!!!

Who is gonna regulate it? Who decides what the standards are? Who says what good training is?

Stupid idea.

You want to see the end of civilian protection training get on board the "Regulate Dog Training Bandwagon".

Lets give the public (read as pathetic idiots) the ability to make MORE uninformed decisions about what other people do with their lives.

I don't care if it is government regulated or any other kind of regulated. . . .BAAAAAAAAD idea.

There are already alot of schools out there that provide excellent training for handlers and trainers. Many provide very good documentation to be used in the establishment of a track record of experience for the trainer.

As for placing fault, how does "the industry" have the power to make a change? The "industry" isn't holding the leash, and isn't responsible for the daily training of the dog. The OWNER IS. If you, the owner, have a dog that is untrained (or poorly trained) and hurts someone, you will be sued or charged under the appropriate criminal law. It is the OWNER'S responsibility to manage and train the animal. Any attempt to defer this responsibility is bogus.

This is the same kind of pseudo-intellectual drivel being peddled by gun control wackjobs-they honestly think that you can reach the conduct of lawless heathens by passing laws which will only affect the people who obey those laws. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> If we already know that those people are going to disobey a new law based on their conduct under existing laws, why pass a new law that also impacts the rights of law-abiding citizens? This thinking drives me absolutely insane.

If we had, as Samantha noted, the means to properly enforce the laws we have on the books already, much of the problem goes away. The same is true of utilizing already-established (and common-sense) methods of evaluating the background and experience of trainers. Check references and records. But don't gimme no ding-dang newfangled society of this-that-n-the other and say it's the magic fairy dust for the animal problems in this country-a proposition which even you admit might be "impossible". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Okay I am getting my @$$ kicked here so I submit-I guess in the long run no matter how you do it-you will end up with the law...which will lead to government which will lead to things getting more screwed up then they already are-I still say that all obedience trainers should be certified and evaluated from time to time-look at the crazy b*tch that trains down here-she is a dog ruiner-.

I gotta stop being so diplomatic. VanCamp is having way more fun than I am. But he clearly understands EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

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Umm..you know the gremans and the SV?

Ummmm. . .is this Germany? Ummmm. . .do you understand the political problems the SV is up against right now? You think that pressure they get in their country impacts how they make decisions about their breed?

Ummmm. . .you think a country with 280+ million people who don't have any standing tradition of working dogs in this country could survive regulation?

Ummmmmm. . .Schutzhund is popular in Germany, that is the only saving grace. Schutzhund is mostly spit at here in this country by the vast majority. . .

Ummmmmm. . .so YES I have heard of the SV.

Originally posted by Dennis Hasley:
Umm..you know the gremans and the SV? Are those like gremlins? Spooky little critters.

Ummmmm. . .does the SV effectively regulate dog training in their own organization?

I've seen worse training coming from some German trainers than I have anywhere else in the world.



Ummmm. . .still a stupid idea.

Ummm. . .think about the example you bring up, it is a perfect example. . .for MY point.