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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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#21966 - 06/11/2003 09:26 AM |
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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#21967 - 06/11/2003 02:20 PM |
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V C Its not that old. They still use sling shots on field trial retrievers. And still occationally put out a eye.
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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#21968 - 06/11/2003 02:59 PM |
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I know throwing the chain is old, Ive only seen it in old books. I believe at one time it was probably state of the art. Ive never used it, even though when I was a kid I would throw a rock at my dog if he was chasing something and wouldnt come back or Id throw a rock in a tree when I was teaching them to look up for squirrels. But Dennis you say you would use it if you thought you needed to. When would you need to? When is it better than an e-collar?
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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#21969 - 06/11/2003 05:26 PM |
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Originally posted by VanCamp Robert:
Heck with the throw chain. . .what a dumb training tool.
Why not just go with the real old school tried and true. . .the slingshot and a pebble. Much more effective than the dumb old throw chain ever was. . .more accurate. lol
Throw chain Dennis? Thats wild man. . .wow. A load of 6 1/2 shot is a very accurate compulsive tool but I don't recomment it. Seen it, it worked, but wouldn't recomment it!
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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Originally posted by David Morris:
Dennis you say you would use it if you thought you needed to. When would you need to? When is it better than an e-collar? A Collar smart hard k9 that is dirty when told to recall. I know in most of your minds you are seeing 40 yards or more and eventually the dog can be called back (even in mid-air) from the bite.
The learning phase is in a very small area on leash and simply the dog learns he cannot escape your influence and the sound it makes behind him reminds him how far your influence travels.
Gradually incorporate this learned aspect into a send-out to recall but the dog is already 100% on the short distance and has a clean out.
I don’t really exclusively on equipment when my training can get it done. The added factors equipment can bring only make the reliable pre that much more solid
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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#21971 - 06/11/2003 08:08 PM |
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Kevin wrote: "A load of 6 1/2 shot is a very accurate compulsive tool but I don't recomment it. Seen it, it worked, but wouldn't recomment it!"
Me neither!!! I hope my post came across that way.
There are a lot of compulsive tools that I think are dumb things to use.
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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#21972 - 06/11/2003 10:05 PM |
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I know someone who used a dead D cell battery to train his Lab. And yes, he did PEG it at him. :rolleyes:
All he had to do was show the dog the battery....
I will stick to my Dogtra, I throw like a girl.
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Dennis, don't be so defensive.
I know he is an idiot... that is why he is an ex! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I still stand that I can't throw, so throwing anything, batteries, rocks, peanuts, chains... aint gonna work. Putting something in my "dog training hat" that is useless for ME, just makes it heavier.
Same idiot chased my Giant through the house with a styrofoam container after she ate his hot meatball sub off the table... Of course she still continued to eat things he left unattended but she hated take out containers after that.
Idiots are everywhere.
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Still friends with the dork though... get my lobsters real cheap from him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Now I just don't let him near my dogs...
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Re: Clear this up; Old or Outdate recall technique?
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Originally posted by Deanna Thompson:
Dennis, don't be so defensive.
I know he is an idiot... that is why he is an ex! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I still stand that I can't throw, so throwing anything, batteries, rocks, peanuts, chains... aint gonna work. Putting something in my "dog training hat" that is useless for ME, just makes it heavier.
Same idiot chased my Giant through the house with a styrofoam container after she ate his hot meatball sub off the table... Of course she still continued to eat things he left unattended but she hated take out containers after that.
Idiots are everywhere.
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Still friends with the dork though... get my lobsters real cheap from him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Now I just don't let him near my dogs... Good plan. I won't call him an idiot anymore for 3 lobsters a month...see what you can work out <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> and thanks in advance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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