 Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Niomi Smith ]
#273472 - 04/19/2010 02:06 PM |
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These all sound like great ideas - I'll definitely give this a go next time I'm around people with him.
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Niomi Smith ]
#273473 - 04/19/2010 02:07 PM |
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When people want to pet my dog I tell them "No, he loves people but he doesn't like to be petted". It's true AND effective.
When he was a puppy I would say "no, he's in training".
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Wendy Lefebvre ]
#273532 - 04/19/2010 06:42 PM |
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Yes it is good to socialize the puppy, but i don't take that to mean everyone gets to pet the puppy.
I take it to mean getting the puppy out into new Environments, new Situations, new sights, new sounds, new smells etc. Socializing does not mean you have to let everyone and anyone touch your puppy.
And exposure is just that, exposure. It's getting the puppy used to those things (kids, dogs, adults) but it doesn't mean they get to touch the puppy and get him riled up. It means the puppy gets to watch and see his surrounding's and get used to whats going on.
To me, if the pup is getting riled up, that's my cue to pull away from the situation. I would take it that the pup has had enough and just can't handle anymore.
What do i reply to someone in public?
Can i pet your puppy?
No, sorry.
If you don't want to be mean make something up.
Sorry, he's pretty wound up and im trying to calm him down.
You can over do certain things with puppies if you're not careful.
And i would ALWAYS be careful with my dog (any breed) around kids, no matter what type of socializing you did as a puppy.
No amount of socializing is going to guarantee a dog that will always play or deal well with others.
Thank you, Wendy. That explains what I was saying pretty much perfectly.
I'll also add that this gives friends a false sense of security. Someday someone may walk into that yard considering the dog a "friend" and the dog may actually view that person as an intruder because its owner isn't around. A properly bred rottie shouldn't be a social butterfly.
I've had people get down right upset at me for not letting them pet my dog, like they have some kind of BS entitlement to pet every dog they see. I tell those people "if you want to pet a dog, may I suggest getting one of your own?".
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Scott Garrett ]
#273539 - 04/19/2010 07:09 PM |
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I will amend my last post ....I was in a hurry to leave...by child labor...yeah, how about pregnancy and labor. Not that I wouldn't like a little child labor since it is spring break and my teens are sitting around doing nothing!
I have to say I don't get NO PETTING. Just not what I have dogs for. Though I will say that any petting is with my okay (to the dog and the person) and my supervision.
After the aforementioned incident with my brother and Basher I did reexplain that Bullmastiffs were REAL dogs and not to be walked in on. So yes, Scott, I can see where you worry about people assuming your dog is their friend. I think that runs along the lines of Darwinism. That also said, I have pet sat and house sat enough dogs that I know most generic dogs are not gonna protect a thing, which is probably why so many people don't think of it.
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Sonya Gilmore ]
#273630 - 04/20/2010 12:38 AM |
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Your spud? If so, congrats. 
I, personally, wouldn't buy a protection based breed if I wanted a social dog. It's a square peg into a round hole, for me.
For me, I just adopt a working dog philosophy with my dogs. You aren't touching my dog unless you have a legitimate reason to. Plus, Duke's never been a friendly dog so I decided that it was safer for everyone if I just say "no" when people ask to pet him.
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Scott Garrett ]
#273644 - 04/20/2010 06:14 AM |
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See, our Bullmastiffs were very social. Not a hesitant bone in their bodies. Other than Lunk's one fear phase that led to her barking at a Michael Jordan beach towel hanging in the back yard and us making fun of her...they were bomb proof. Bullmastiffs too are NOT bite dogs. Their breeding was to knock down and hold. Hard to take a poacher to court if you dog had eaten him. They do sometimes have some dog aggression. And just the sheer power of them I found was more than enough for folks to ask about petting.
I like having dogs that do something for people..not just me maybe. I want to train a search and rescue too. But I enjoy therapy work.
And NO, no more pregnancy for me. The next infant here will be grands and not for a few. Phew! I was just comparing how you can forget the misery because of the end product....like a puppy that seems to bite and chew forever...then one day you realize it doesn't anymore.
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Sonya Gilmore ]
#273651 - 04/20/2010 09:07 AM |
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Other than Lunk's one fear phase that led to her barking at a Michael Jordan beach towel hanging in the back yard and us making fun of her...they were bomb proof.
Not to veer off topic, but you do realize this means there are at least TWO scary "Michaels" out in the world with their faces on textiles!! And based on my reaction to the "Wise" version, I don't blame Lunk for being momentarily overcome by panic from her "sighting"!!  
(ohhh, we're so going to be milking this whole episode for decades...)
And to bring it back around to prudent conversation - I prefer the "he's friendly but doesn't like to be pet" response (which is also super true with Oscar), but honestly, some people just can't be deterred unless you flat out say he's "unfriendly", which is incorrectly translated by many into "potentially dangerous" {sigh}. You can't really do this with a cuddly, obviously harmless puppy though... so I'd really stick with the "he's in training" route. 
I have a pet dog whom I walk with in public situations - a lot - and while I don't want him fawned over by every person, I certainly don't want people afraid of him because they think he'll bite... IME, so many people can't fathom that there's an in between...
~Natalya
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Natalya Zahn ]
#273697 - 04/20/2010 06:57 PM |
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I have NOT seen the Wise version! If I search maybe I will find it??
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Sonya Gilmore ]
#273701 - 04/20/2010 07:15 PM |
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Worth a search. Absolutely TERRIFYING.
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Re: Dog excitement around friends
[Re: Kristel Smart ]
#273705 - 04/20/2010 08:23 PM |
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Worth a search. Absolutely TERRIFYING.
Kristel, you spelled "hysterically funny" wrong.
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