 Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: Tracy Collins ]
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Tracy, I'm on a patriotic kick. Is it marked Made in U.S.A.?
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Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: steve strom ]
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Sorry to hear about her Ana. I always rest my dogs after they eat for a couple of hours. I don't let them drink too much water during or after excercise, moderate amounts spread out a little, not just a long period of gulping. They used
DITTO what Steve said. I also don't feed them for at least a 1/2 hr to an hour or 2 BEFORE feeding them. The waiting time depends on the amount of exercise before the meal. I also feed a slightly larger meal at night then I do in the am. I feed raw also.
It might be worth switching to a premade raw like Bravo or some other one for a while. All the bone is finely ground in those foods. But it would be more practical for the long run to purchase a grinding machine if this is going to be long-term.
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Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: Anne Jones ]
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Ana, that must have been very scary, but you are very fortunate that she made it. A friend lost her GSD years ago from torsion, her dog also suffered from EPI and was on a special diet. I took in a GSD rescue, two years ago ,and had noticed that he had surgery of some sort, I had it investigated, they found that he had a gastropexy done previously. I asked many questions as I knew this was now something that I had to convey when he went to his new home. Feeding times are important,limited exercise before/after, and also no feeding while stressed. He went to a friend, I see him all the time, and he has had no issues, looks great!
Best of luck,hoping she continues to do well!
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[Re: Tammy Moore ]
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Thank you, Tammy and Anne.
There is a very nice family-run pet store nearby that sells variety of frozen raw foods, which Connie already had before. I think I will start adding fresh raw boneless skinless chicken when we are switching from bland diet till we work it out with the nutritionist.
Right now Connie is on chicken soup (free range chicken+water+white rice) about 1 cup x 2 times/day(meat only, fat skimmed) and 1/2 cup water + 1 Tsp soup whenever she asks for it. She is super hungry but I am afraid to give her too much food just yet.
Connie is panting on and off half the time. The vets said could be pain+stress+Tramadol(pain med), should be OK as long as there is no fever/vomiting/discomfort. Any idea why she is panting?
She seems to be doing better, started to perk up when somebody walks outside - who'd there? let's go check! Still sleeping most of the time in the crate.
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Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: Ana Kozlowsky ]
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Thank you, Tammy and Anne.
There is a very nice family-run pet store nearby that sells variety of frozen raw foods, which Connie already had before. I think I will start adding fresh raw boneless skinless chicken when we are switching from bland diet till we work it out with the nutritionist.
Right now Connie is on chicken soup (free range chicken+water+white rice) about 1 cup x 2 times/day(meat only, fat skimmed) and 1/2 cup water + 1 Tsp soup whenever she asks for it. She is super hungry but I am afraid to give her too much food just yet.
Connie is panting on and off half the time. The vets said could be pain+stress+Tramadol(pain med), should be OK as long as there is no fever/vomiting/discomfort. Any idea why she is panting?
She seems to be doing better, started to perk up when somebody walks outside - who'd there? let's go check! Still sleeping most of the time in the crate.
Stress panting? Standing, heaving sides? Or lying down, lightly panting?
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Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: Ana Kozlowsky ]
#276651 - 05/14/2010 08:41 PM |
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... Right now Connie is on chicken soup (free range chicken+water+white rice) about 1 cup x 2 times/day ...
Did anyone suggest frequent small snack-size meals rather than 2 per day?
Don't take that as advice yet -- I know I read that, but I have to check where.
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Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#276656 - 05/14/2010 08:51 PM |
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The instructions say "small frequent meals". She usually had and egg/cottage cheese/yogurt + salmon oil+E AM and a chicken leg-sized portion of meat PM. Don't want to give her more than that amount per day. As long as she is not actually drooling and begging for food, I was hoping it would be enough.
Stress panting? Don't think so. More like she is hot. Laying down, or sitting panting. Then go back to sleep, wake up, lay there watching, then pant a bit, then back to sleep. They said she panted a lot back in the hospital all the time. Did not find anything wrong.
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Re: Mesenteric torsion - long term care
[Re: Ana Kozlowsky ]
#276657 - 05/14/2010 08:55 PM |
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What I meant was, where you said 2x a day, I would probably spread that out over maybe 5 snacks instead.
Maybe pain-panting. Is it lessened after the Tramadol?
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[Re: Ana Kozlowsky ]
#276659 - 05/14/2010 09:00 PM |
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I would give her small amounts of food and water at a time, and if she is panting excessively, I would avoid feeding her until she seems more relaxed. There is a bowl on the market ,a bloat bowl, that they use for dogs in the kennel that have had this surgery, or those at high risk. Did your vet suggest keeping a bottle of Gas X or Mylanta on hand should she show signs of gas?
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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#276660 - 05/14/2010 09:00 PM |
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Ok, maybe 5 x 1/2 cup snacks? Could I give her too little?
It seems to go away completely for about 3 hours about 20 mins after Tramadol. Must be pain, it's a huge incision, maybe 1ft long 
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