 Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Kelly ]
#277286 - 05/19/2010 08:09 PM |
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Kelly, you must be really proud of her. Looking forward to hearing more about her interactions with the kids. I bet she will be a tremendous success...
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
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One of the best things with using a therapy dog is that they almost instantly build trust with even the most resistant clients  ..I think it will be a great experience for all involved: staff, clients, Drift and myself.
It is amazing, and it is what motivates me to continue doing it!
Great job Kelly & Drift!
Many people bring their dogs to me for certification, many fail, however, I know of many dogs that have had bitework training that would certainly pass the test. The problem is not always the dog, but many therapy certification programs state that a dogs trained for bite work are not eligible for certification.
Many now state that
dogs on a raw diet are not accepted because of increased risk of zoonotic infection! I do not agree with this, and believe me, I have had some very strong arguments on the subject pertaining to both therapy and my own preschool! 
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Tammy Moore ]
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The problem is not always the dog, but many therapy certification programs state that a dogs trained for bite work are not eligible for certification.
That's very interesting. Yet another example of rule-makers gone wild. So Kelly's superb young dog could be disallowed from therapy work in some states by virtue of having done bitework in his lifetime?
Tammy, how much time do you end up spending with dogs certifying as therapy dogs? Are there several sessions over time, or is it a one-shot deal? (Don't want to derail the thread here - I'm just interested in what it takes for a dog to get to Drift's level).
Maybe it's just a fact that the 'average' dog doesn't have the character to switch gears between the demands of protection work and therapy work? They are definitely at opposite ends of a continuum in terms of "attitude" toward humans.
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Kelly wrote 05/19/2010 09:50 PM
Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Rob Abel ]
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I think that most people don't understand what bite work is all about. Drift isn't aggressive in any sense of the word. The bite sleeve to her is nothing more than a large tug. The fact that it's on someone's arm (usually mine or Paul's) really doesn't register for her.
I have never worked her in defense... first of all she is not mentally mature enough to handle it, but mostly because I don't want her attitude towards the sleeve to change. She will never compete in bite sports, so the sleeve is never going to be anything but another toy for her to play with and interact with.
Most people also don't understand the level of obedience training most dogs in bite sports undergo. They are, for the most part, too well trained and obedient to just go off and bite someone without the command. People just see a dog launching itself at a decoy, but have no idea what it takes to get the dog to that level.
Just my opinion of course
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Kelly ]
#277307 - 05/19/2010 09:53 PM |
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You should've seen her Sarah!! She rocked!! Never made a sound, was calm and collected, accepted everyone, and listened to every word I said.
Amazing dog!!!!
Aww, I wish I could have seen her, what a good girl! Gotta love those Leerburg dogs!  
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Kelly wrote 05/19/2010 10:00 PM
Re: Drift's first day of work
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Being a GSD was almost Drift's undoing. Based on the breed, she was almost denied the chance to show what she can do. Once I was able to get her the shot, she won everyone over
It would be a tragedy if simply being a German Shepherd Dog prevented her from working.
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Kelly ]
#277312 - 05/19/2010 10:44 PM |
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Once you get a few experiences under his belt, and get the support of folks at the facility, the accumulated results will hopefully speak for themselves. That, or tell 'em Drift is a Golden Retriever with a coat mutation!
Agree completely with your description of bitework. Unfortunately, we're not talking about the reality of what the dogs are capable of, it's the PERCEPTION that gets in the way.
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Rob Abel ]
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Tammy, how much time do you end up spending with dogs certifying as therapy dogs? Are there several sessions over time, or is it a one-shot deal? (Don't want to derail the thread here - I'm just interested in what it takes for a dog to get to Drift's level).
There are several sessions over about a 6 week span. They are set up to teach the handler what to expect when entering a facility, and what their dog will/could encounter, how the handler interacts with their dog ,their ability to control the dog in various situations. We have mock sessions with wheel chairs, canes, medical equipment, role playing of shouting, spastic behavior, placebo medication on the floor, other dogs and other animals!, and of course following OB commands.
I think that most people don't understand what bite work is all about
Very true, and they have little desire to educate themselves on it!
The bite sleeve to her is nothing more than a large tug.
Exactly, and many dogs I see are rescues, how does one know if they have ever bitten anything, let alone a sleeve!
Most people also don't understand the level of obedience training most dogs in bite sports undergo. They are, for the most part, too well trained and obedient to just go off and bite someone without the command.
IMO, if a dog that has had bite work {good training}, and one that hasn’t, can pass the testing, there shouldn’t be speculation that one would be more likely to bite than another. Their have been cases of therapy animals biting, now, if this were a dog that had bite work, can you imagine how that would get reported?
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Rob Abel ]
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it's the PERCEPTION that gets in the way.
Yes, and should a "therapy" dog that has had bite work ever bite, this perception would only get worse!
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Re: Drift's first day of work
[Re: Tammy Moore ]
#277316 - 05/19/2010 11:08 PM |
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I won't do bitework with Roger because of the therapy work and because of the preschool.
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