Reg: 12-01-2005
Posts: 70
Loc: Northern California
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I live in Sonoma County and just want to say - there ARE cougars. In town and definitely in the parks. They hide most the time but they are there. We have very nice parks here and even though I'm a dog lover, I don't want an unleashed dog running up to me anywhere and that is what is bound to happen. There are a lot of other parks and beaches that are dog specific. I think it's a fair compromise.
We go hiking in the Sierras at Mammoth Mountain mostly every summer. You are allowed to take your dog on any trails there, and most of the dogs are off leash. We've never had a problem at all with being attacked by an aggressive dog - but here in the city where we live it happens a lot. There are a lot of 'critters' in the Sierras too. Just makes you wonder who decides what in this country!
IME its the difference between the National Forests and the California State ones. The National Forests seem to be more lenient on pretty much everything (campfires are another good example) It's really frustrating, especially if you're just hiking through State Wilderness for a short section of trail; it means you can't take a dog on the entire trip.
There are cougars pretty much everywhere in California, even SoCal. Their presence is a bit more subtle than bears though, especially since they don't shred unattended cars.
Reg: 06-12-2007
Posts: 1039
Loc: So. California coast
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We were told about Bobcats, but no one mentioned cougars. Oh well, it's just the whole topic about irresponsible owners who end up ruining everything for the rest of us that gets me. But it's life I guess.
Interesting topic. Living in rural British Columbia, we have a wide selection of forested crown lands to wander through, on or off leash, at our choosing.
We also have ranchers and range riders who shoot first and ask questions later should a dog be found harassing their open range livestock, which are everywhere. Hunters and conservation officers pretty much live under the same rules should dogs be found annoying the wildlife. I guess you could say “off leash” kind of polices itself.
I have a great appreciation and respect for all wildlife and believe that our presence should not cause them any added stress. Also knowing the potential outcome, should one of my beloved predators make a choice to kick in the prey drive and chase a wilderness resident, their most important training is critter desensitization - large prey and wildlife are done with the e-collar.
Now to my dumb question – could full control under an e-collar be considered “on leash” for the purposes of these parks?
Now to my dumb question – could full control under an e-collar be considered “on leash” for the purposes of these parks?
Not a dumb question...
Depends on the park. Most of the parks have postings that are very clear about the length of leash required (mostly they say 6 FT.), but on occasion, I have seen park signs that specify a leash or voice control. Those are pretty rare, tho. If a sign did allow voice control, then an e-collar would be fine.
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