 Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
[Re: Maxx Ray ]
#280890 - 06/21/2010 07:38 PM |
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You shouldn't need to muzzle a service dog, perhaps remove the vest a checkpoint!
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280891 - 06/21/2010 07:40 PM |
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You shouldn't need to muzzle a service dog, perhaps remove the vest a checkpoint!
That would definitely work, however if you remove the vest of a SD when they are working, it means that they are not working anymore. Also, the muzzle would be for her to not bark ( advising the security people to not touch her while she's working).
I'll ask the vet to help or give me any suggestions.. I'm sure she'll do fine and be perfectly OK; I'm just a bit nervous since she's never been through anything like this before.
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280892 - 06/21/2010 07:45 PM |
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Hi Maxx, a muzzle won't prevent a dog from barking.
Does your dog obey your commands while not working? If she does, put her in sit or down/stay, remove the vest (she still got her collar on, right?), wait for them to check it, put the vest back on and release the dog. Or use a dummy vest: have the dummy vest checked, down/stay, change the vest, have the real vest checked, switch the vests, release the dog. Voila 
eta: Try not to be too nervous - it will make your dog nervous in turn.
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280893 - 06/21/2010 07:48 PM |
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Hi Maxx, a muzzle won't prevent dog from barking.
Does your dog obey your commands while not working? have the dummy vest checked, down/stay, change the vest, have the real vest checked, switch the vests, release the dog.
Thank you! I had not thought of the vest "trick"! Great idea! Yes she obeys all the time, however its a work/no work status.
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280894 - 06/21/2010 07:51 PM |
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She is still working without the vest!
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280895 - 06/21/2010 07:53 PM |
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She is still working without the vest!
The way Service dogs are trained is
Vest= work
No vest= personal play time. (Which may make her think the wands are playing sticks).
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280902 - 06/21/2010 08:21 PM |
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Sorry Maxx, I am logged in here but doing 50 other things. I have been working with service dogs for many years, they do get certification, and this type of behavior would get them excluded from the program. If you have a medical emergency, and the dog is not wearing the vest, does she still perform her duties?
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280905 - 06/21/2010 08:25 PM |
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No worries, I understand people are busy; thank you for taking the time to respond. Of course she does, but the way we trained her is that no vest= play time which would allow her to fetch, play with a stick and other things. Its what I was told by the trainer that helped me train her. Yes, while there is a certification you can buy after she's been trained; a certification is not needed for her to be a service dog.
I have never removed her vest while we have been outside, I don't normally allow anyone to touch her / pet her while she is working.
I am sorry I am so inexperienced with regards to these things but I was told to not be lenient with these types of activities such as removing her vest while she's working, only at home.
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280907 - 06/21/2010 08:32 PM |
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Also, just so I understand you said a type of behavior would get them excluded from the program" What type of behavior?
All she does while she's working and when people try to pet / touch/ play with her is she backs off and gets behind me, puts her head close to their hand and backs off, or let out a small bark as an alert that it is happening in case I am not looking and letting the people know that she is working?
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Re: Traveling with my Service Dog
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#280942 - 06/21/2010 10:18 PM |
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There are many bogus certification programs out there, and no it is not a requirement for a service dog to be certified, nor is it a requirement that they wear a vest. I suggested removing the vest at check point, you could put it back on her after, but you don't think that will work. It sounds like your mock wand session worked out, if you keep working with this, and keep her focused on you, maybe the situation will be fine!
Even with the vest, patches, heck...a neon sign, people still try and touch the dog  ! The dogs we work with must remain passive, but not engage in the person touching them, they can't show fear, startle, or vocalize, and must stay focused on the handler.
If this is the only behavior she displays, I am sure it will be easy to correct! Can the trainer that worked with you help you out?
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