Re: need help with naming my kennel
[Re: Jessica Pedicord ]
#298553 - 10/03/2010 05:59 PM |
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Don't know how to say it in German but how about "Roxy's You Mecca Me Hot Palace"?
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298560 - 10/03/2010 07:30 PM |
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I like Von Scandia or Von Scandiahaus. Or Von Joneshaus. But I have no clue about the grammar.
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298565 - 10/03/2010 08:16 PM |
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I'd like to use a family name but none of them sound very Germanic. I would have no idea on how to make "Jones" or "Garner" German sounding
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298566 - 10/03/2010 09:11 PM |
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You could go back to the meanings behind your family names, and see what they translate to in German...
ETA: I think you have lots of potential with Garner, haven't checked Jones yet.
"This interesting surname is of early medieval English origin, and has three possible sources. Firstly, the surname may be topographical for someone who lived near a barn or granary, or a metonymic occupational name for someone who was in charge of the storehouse for corn, the granary, from the Anglo-Norman French "gerner", granary (Old French "gernier", from the Late Latin "granarium", a derivative of "granum", grain, corn). William del Gerner is noted in the 1332 Subsidy Rolls of Lancashire. Secondly, it may be from a central Old French form of a Germanic personal name composed of the elements "war(in)", guard, and "heri, hari", army. The given name was introduced into England by the Normans during the Conquest of 1066 in the form "Warnier" or "Garnier". The third source is a contracted variant from the English occupational name "Gardener", which was normally given to a cultivator of edible produce in an orchard or kitchen garden, rather than to a tender of ornamental lawns and flower beds. In the modern idiom the surname has many variant spellings ranging from Gorner, Garner, Gerner and Guerner, to Gornar, Gurner, Guarnier and Gernier. Margret Gurner married Robarte Stasy on May 8th 1608, at St. Andrew's, Enfield, London. The Coat of Arms most associated with the family depicts a silver sword in bend sinister, point downwards, between a silver fleur-de-lis in chief and an oak branch acorned silver in base, all on an azure shield, the Crest being a red griffins head between two silver wings, charged with a torteau. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Geoffrey Gerner, which was dated 1272, in the "Feet of Fines of Essex", during the reign of King Edward 1, known as "The Hammer of the Scots", 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling."
ETA again, I think you might have more options playing off Garner, but here is the background for Jones:
"This famous surname, widespread throughout the British Isles, and the most popular surname in Wales, one in ten Welsh people being so-called, is nethertheless of English medieval origins. It derives either from the male given name John, or its female equivalent Joan, both Norman French introductions after the 1066 Invasion. Both names are written as Jon(e) in medieval documents, and a clear distinction between them on the grounds of gender was not made until the 15th Century. However, because western society has almost invariably had a male as family head throughout history, bearers of the surname Jones are more likely to derive it from a patronymic form of John, than a matronymic form of Joan. The personal name John, ultimately from the Hebrew "Yochanan" meaning "Jehovah has favoured (me with a son)", has always enjoyed enormous popularity in Europe, and particularly so after the famous Crusades of the 12th century. The name, which is found in some four hundred spellings, is in honour of St. John the Baptist, the precursor of Christ. The surname as "Jones", first appears on record in England in the latter part of the 13th Century, and also features as one of the most numerous settler names in Ireland, having been introduced in the wake of the Anglo- Norman Invasion of 1170. It is now found in every Irish county, especially in the larger towns, and has also been Gaelicized as "MacSeoin". The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Matilda Jones, which was dated 1273, in the "Hundred Rolls of Huntingdonshire", during the reign of King Edward 1st, known as "The Hammer of the Scots", reigned 1272 - 1307."
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298570 - 10/03/2010 09:37 PM |
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You could go back to the meanings behind your family names, and see what they translate to in German...
ETA: I think you have lots of potential with Garner, haven't checked Jones yet.
"This interesting surname is of early medieval English origin, and has three possible sources. Firstly, the surname may be topographical for someone who lived near a barn or granary, or a metonymic occupational name for someone who was in charge of the storehouse for corn, the granary, from the Anglo-Norman French "gerner", granary (Old French "gernier", from the Late Latin "granarium", a derivative of "granum", grain, corn). William del Gerner is noted in the 1332 Subsidy Rolls of Lancashire. Secondly, it may be from a central Old French form of a Germanic personal name composed of the elements "war(in)", guard, and "heri, hari", army. The given name was introduced into England by the Normans during the Conquest of 1066 in the form "Warnier" or "Garnier". The third source is a contracted variant from the English occupational name "Gardener", which was normally given to a cultivator of edible produce in an orchard or kitchen garden, rather than to a tender of ornamental lawns and flower beds. In the modern idiom the surname has many variant spellings ranging from Gorner, Garner, Gerner and Guerner, to Gornar, Gurner, Guarnier and Gernier. Margret Gurner married Robarte Stasy on May 8th 1608, at St. Andrew's, Enfield, London. The Coat of Arms most associated with the family depicts a silver sword in bend sinister, point downwards, between a silver fleur-de-lis in chief and an oak branch acorned silver in base, all on an azure shield, the Crest being a red griffins head between two silver wings, charged with a torteau. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Geoffrey Gerner, which was dated 1272, in the "Feet of Fines of Essex", during the reign of King Edward 1, known as "The Hammer of the Scots", 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling."
ETA again, I think you might have more options playing off Garner, but here is the background for Jones:
"This famous surname, widespread throughout the British Isles, and the most popular surname in Wales, one in ten Welsh people being so-called, is nethertheless of English medieval origins. It derives either from the male given name John, or its female equivalent Joan, both Norman French introductions after the 1066 Invasion. Both names are written as Jon(e) in medieval documents, and a clear distinction between them on the grounds of gender was not made until the 15th Century. However, because western society has almost invariably had a male as family head throughout history, bearers of the surname Jones are more likely to derive it from a patronymic form of John, than a matronymic form of Joan. The personal name John, ultimately from the Hebrew "Yochanan" meaning "Jehovah has favoured (me with a son)", has always enjoyed enormous popularity in Europe, and particularly so after the famous Crusades of the 12th century. The name, which is found in some four hundred spellings, is in honour of St. John the Baptist, the precursor of Christ. The surname as "Jones", first appears on record in England in the latter part of the 13th Century, and also features as one of the most numerous settler names in Ireland, having been introduced in the wake of the Anglo- Norman Invasion of 1170. It is now found in every Irish county, especially in the larger towns, and has also been Gaelicized as "MacSeoin". The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Matilda Jones, which was dated 1273, in the "Hundred Rolls of Huntingdonshire", during the reign of King Edward 1st, known as "The Hammer of the Scots", reigned 1272 - 1307."
Ummm.... this is what I MEANT to say when I posted the "you mecca me hot" idea... really.
Nice Phaedra!
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298576 - 10/03/2010 10:37 PM |
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Ummm.... this is what I MEANT to say when I posted the "you mecca me hot" idea... really.
Nice Phaedra!
LOL. Barbara, who says your idea is out of the running?! Maybe just mush the words together a bit, and translate:
Von Simekkamicheiß!
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298578 - 10/03/2010 11:48 PM |
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Phaedra, where did you get that surname info. I want to know mine! All I know is that it's Scottish that turned into Irish (because I'm Irish, not Scottish).
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298637 - 10/04/2010 04:56 PM |
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The story itself gives so many ideas for a name:
Beowulf a warrior of Geatland, who later became King of the Geats. Beowulf fought an unnamed dragon which sealed his demise. Hrothgar and Naegling, Hrunting.
Often the maker put his own name on what he made, and in verse : “Ek Hlewagastiz Holtingaz horna tawido, runs the inscription on the famous golden horn : that is, “I, Hlewagast Holting, this horn have made,” — probably the oldest Germanic verse that is preserved.
http://www.elfinspell.com/Gummere/Beowulf4.html
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Re: need help with naming my kennel
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#298641 - 10/04/2010 05:51 PM |
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I actually thought it was a plus that my breeder didn't give his kennel some pretentious German name. That's probably just me, though.
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