Robert VanCamp Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2001
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Lou, my friend, you have a one track mind. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
When was the last time you were de-railed from an e-collar solution? So far the standings for the e-collar debates are as following:
Lou Castle- 147
All other contestants- 0
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Just flipping you some shiznit man. Keep on rollin' with the good e-collar advice.
Is there an age limit that you would put on using the e-collar? How young of a dog would you use the collar on?
yes she does know the quiet command, but she does not listen. Then she doesn't know the command.
This is an easy one. Again though people like to correct the symptom and not the cause but oh well.
Get a spray bottle the kind people use to spritz their hair with. Put it on stream. Hang it from your pants pocket. When she barks tell her quiet and squirt her.
Now before everyone goes and tells me how much their dogs likes water, my question to you is this does the dog quit barking at the door? YES!
Yeah VanCamp! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Geeezzzzzz that was not a challange! I totally agree with Lou on the e-collar as a solution to the barking problem, my only disagreement is that, it is still avoidence training, just has a diffrent wrapper. E-Collar (Safer for the dog) as opposed to Prong (potential injury) and the long term effectivness of using one over the either, I think there is no diffrence if learning indeed has taken place. A dog can just as easly learn when the "Black Box" is on I must listen, when it's not I don't gota, same with the prong.
Now to Todd's post... I think if the dog stops barking when a quiet command is given, even one time, it has learned the command to a degree, it's the distraction/and willingness to follow orders that's the problem, which in some cases learned better through avoidence, even Todd's water squirt is Avoidence training... all the same thing, just diffrent flavors
Leute mögen Hunde, aber Leute LIEBEN ausgebildete Hunde!
I think if the dog stops barking when a quiet command is given, even one time, it has learned the command to a degree, There are too many variables to say even one time it has learned even to a degree. Heck the pup may have got tired of barking and that coincided with the command.
How can it be avoidance training if the dog happens to like water? The point of the water is to change the dogs focus. Not punish or cause avoidance. Some dogs love the water and find that more fun than barking.
Now I know I am out of my realm. Here I thought we were talking about a DOG!!! I think I am gonna hurl.
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This correction via human translates by a firm pressure grip around the dog's muzzle
I don't know about any one else. But the nerves that were described this sounds like a sure fire way to get an all expense paid trip to the emergency room.
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and don't push mom to the "F" word cuz that means loss of freedom's, treats and/or privledges.
Not even going here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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