thanks, I know that is true, I do understand life is unpredictable, just didn't want my dog to think they could go with someone without me.

Well, I hope to take all my dogs one after the other and pray they will get their certificates. On the pamphlet I got it said you can train your own dogs. Have any of you done that or do you take them to a place and have them trained for a good citizen certificate?

Thanks sharon

looked at the video, I keep forgetting about u tube, I should look there more often for dog stuff. thanks sharon
I have a couple of friends who may be able to help me as we move along in our training.

Cody will be the real challenge, he is very active and excitable but smart, I hope I can work with him well enough to teach him to avoid distractions. One thing about him that is good, he is very focused. Getting excited. sharon

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Well, I hope to take all my dogs one after the other and pray they will get their certificates. On the pamphlet I got it said you can train your own dogs. Have any of you done that or do you take them to a place and have them trained for a good citizen certificate?

Many dog training facilities offer a CGC class where you specifically practice for the ten exercises they will be tested on. But of course taking a class is not required. Since the exercises in the CGC are based on things a dog might be expected to encounter in everyday life, often, if your dog has been well-socialized, is well-mannered in public, knows basic commands like sit and stay, and behaves well at the vet or groomer, that's all that you'll need. It definitely wouldn't hurt to have a friend to practice with, and that will give you an idea of whether you think you need a class or not.

I never did take a CGC class, but then again, I had taken lots of other classes before I went for the tests.

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On the pamphlet I got it said you can train your own dogs. Have any of you done that or do you take them to a place and have them trained for a good citizen certificate?

Thanks sharon

I did all of Drift's training for CGC myself and went to an evaluator for the test.

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On the pamphlet I got it said you can train your own dogs. Have any of you done that or do you take them to a place and have them trained for a good citizen certificate?

Thanks sharon

I did all of Drift's training for CGC myself and went to an evaluator for the test.

Same here.

I just show up at a local Schutzhund Club day of testing.

Great. I would like to train them myself. Especially Cody, it would be some time before he will let people handle him, or men get close to him. He does pretty well at the vet, but ever since being in the hospital he does not like men.
Bindi is very good and wants to please, loves people and obeys well. She is the dog I have had the longest. Terra is just venturing out into the public (she is my newest dog, very fearful, used to fall to the floor when I raised my arm, or holding something in my hand) she is doing much better. I do have friends who will help me. Looking forward to doing this. Thanks for the info. Sharon

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Same thing with the TT from the ATTS but that's steps ahead of the CGC.

We are finishing the prep class and are due for testing in a couple of weeks. Some folks are obviously not going to pass and that's been interesting. I've equated the stranger handling as prep for AKC "stand for exam" in confo, as well as demonstrating veterinary examination compliance, etc.

Bob, my trainer has said that he values TT more highly and we are slated for that in August -do you agree? I believe that test uses uneven walking surfaces, "crazy/drunk" type people encounters, etc...

Yes! IMHO any good, sound dog should be able to pass the CGC with nothing more then good manners.
The TT involves a bit more and it's judged based on breed.
for instance;
If a Beagle shows aggression with the drunk stranger it's probably going to flunk simply because aggression is completely against the nature of a Beagle.
If my SchIII GSD Thunder "didn't" try and eat him alive as soon as the drunken stranger showed aggression towards us we would have flunked, not to mention never living it down with my friends.
Tomorrow my brother is going for his CGC with his Presa. The dog is way better then that BUT it's a breed with a bad rep and my brother is just covering his ass.
Next month both of us are going to take his Presa and my GSD Trooper for their TT.
To me they are an active effort to show a dog owner has put time into making sure his dog is safe in public.
Note I didn't say social. As far as I'm concerned social means my dogs will except whatever situation I place it in without over reacting. Social, to me, has nothing to do with a dog that can be let loose to play with other dogs and wants everyone to pet it. That's mostly just....DUMB!

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Yes! IMHO any good, sound dog should be able to pass the CGC with nothing more then good manners.

Can any good sound dog flunk too? Thor and I were flops at the CGC test. I am not sure if it was his relieving himself as the pleasantries were discussed during test one or the head slam to the evaluators privates during test 2. We never saw test 3 so I'm assuming the latter.

Sharon,
Your pups are soooo cute! LOL I'm probably the last person to take advice from but I think you should train them on your own and add people as you progress for distractions.....Maybe I should train Thor, at 11 he's not quite as rambunctios as he was at 2.

That's funny Sheila

I’ve often thought the BH would be a good final goal for Vince (I know, just the very beginning for most) and with him, probably another year or two yet. This test seems a bit more realistic to what I feel he could easily be capable of.

That whole “other handler” business with the CGC, much like Sharon, has me concerned with him too. If I could just put him in down stay and know that the handler wouldn’t try and mess with him, it would probably go well. But that kind of caveat is probably against the integrity of the test or perhaps even seen as a potential for “bad manners”, which it probably is and a reason he may never be a candidate for the test.

The BH simply stakes out the dog and has another dog walk by, a breeze for Vince. He’s getting fairly aloof to people milling about/hand shaking when he’s by my side and we’ve pretty much got the obedience moves down.

That TT looks really interesting too.

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AKC is one of the only dog organizations that is recognized in a court of law.

That is so interesting, had no idea this was the case. So no CYA with the BH or TT? I wonder if the same applies with the CKC here. Learn something new every day.

Great topic Sharon, glad you raised it. And the best of luck to you. I’m with Sheila, you can do it!!

I took the test early with Ryuk....he failed the "leave with stranger thing". From what I was told by the few people and their dogs watching he did fine at first. I put him in a sit-stay, he watched me intently as i left then for about a minute after, then I guess the "stranger" moved a bit and the leash tightened slightly, Ryuk will NOT be restrained up tight by another person, he got up and yanked the person holding him and pulled her over. Person dropped the leash he turned to the same spot I'd left him I'm told he instantly resumed his sit-stay but it was to late...I came back to him sitting politely waiting for me XD....dork puppy

The TT looks fun....I'd like to try for the CGC with Ryuk just so he's got the title there. At this point I'm pretty confident he'd do fine with a lot of the "public manners" type tests. He's got some convention real world experience (still no leaving with strangers)...if he can do drunk people dressed up as giant squeaking chew toys hugging him surrounded by flashing strobe lights and techno music...no test is going to freak him out XD