Dawn Sawyer Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2011
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Quote: Connie Sutherland
Why would he have to "come running" if you are loading the marker? Please describe how you loaded or are loading the verbal marker. If you have not loaded the marker properly, then it doesn't mean "release" or anything else yet.
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Dito! The "loading" should be with the dog next to/in front of you where it doesn't have to do anything but look at you to hear the "yes" and earn the reward. Even something as simple as walking across the room is adding to much to the initial loading process.
Baby steps in the beginning and you'll be surprised how quickly the dog learns how to run once the concept is understood.
What I did was what Bob is describing. I had Saber in front of me and a bait bag full of freeze dried liver and did yes feed, yes feed, yes feed over & over, stop for a minute or so then let him go, got him back to me and repeat a few time. I did this first thing in the morning, 2 or 3 times during the day, and last thing before bed, for 2 days without any other sort of training.
On the third day I started to get him to touch my hand with his nose, using a piece of the liver to lure his nose to my hand, then when he touched it, "yes" & feed. Repeating and moving my hand around so he has to move for it. I didn't want him to get bored so I had him do other little things, sit, down, stands, standing w/ his front feet on a box, sitting in heel position and marking when his head was up etc.
Am I jumping ahead of myself? Each session is less than ten minutes and I try to do 2 or 3 a day.
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What I did was what Bob is describing. I had Saber in front of me and a bait bag full of freeze dried liver and did yes feed, yes feed, yes feed over & over, stop for a minute or so then let him go, got him back to me and repeat a few time. I did this first thing in the morning, 2 or 3 times during the day, and last thing before bed, for 2 days without any other sort of training.
And then what? Did the dog begin to anticipate the reward when you gave the verbal marker?
On the third day I started to get him to touch my hand with his nose, using a piece of the liver to lure his nose to my hand, then when he touched it, "yes" & feed. Repeating and moving my hand around so he has to move for it. I didn't want him to get bored so I had him do other little things, sit, down, stands, standing w/ his front feet on a box, sitting in heel position and marking when his head was up etc.
Am I jumping ahead of myself? Each session is less than ten minutes and I try to do 2 or 3 a day.
This sounds to me like slightly too-long sessions, and more than slightly too-much-stuff at once, even if the marker was loaded perfectly .....but also I don't have a feel for whether he understands the marker. Is there any chance of linking us to a video clip of any part of a session?
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It may be all perfect, and just a communication thing.
A video is an excellent idea. It could be something as simple as timing.
As to length of sessions I find that the dog can be taught just about anything with very short sessions.
During a tv commercial is a great time to do just a couple of reps of anything your trying to teach. That definitely includes loading the marker.
ONE behavior at a time!
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Thank you for all the responses, I really appreciate it. I will try to get a video tomorrow or Thursday. I'm not discouraged, I just don't want to mess up a good technique.
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