Proofing and distraction can be pretty individual but I think the how, when and why are probably easier to understand watching the DVD then we can say over a web post. The DVD is your friend!
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Hi, Mary,
I'm not trying to be vague, and neither is Bob.
I suspect (from "going back") that you may have introduced distance and/or duration too quickly, but I can't see you so I can't be sure --- but I know that if that's the issue, you'll see it watching the DVD.
I agree with Connie on the distance and/or duration being done to quickly! Having to "go back" to the dog for correction is where I get that.
The same will apply to marker training without the need to correct...at least at this point in the training. As I commented before, the correction phase is a personal thing based on experience so the how and why need to be thought out carefully. The DVD will help figure that out.
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Thanks Bob. I was having trouble explaining that even needing corrections at the point described meant that steps had been skipped .... that there was no real answer to the question as phrased because the question was describing a scenario that sounded "off."
For me, proofing has a lot more to do with gradually increasing distractions and distance, venue changes ....
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The part that I needed to go back on was teaching the down from a stand instead of a sit and the whole precision heeling process, with a touch tub.
I rarely have to give her a correction but on the long down or long sit her attention may wonder and she may decide get up to go check something out. I got the impression that this is where you remind the dog that they are still in a command. She does very well, usually with just a verbal reminder such as "ah-ah". I dont have an ecollar for her so I use a long line. If she breaks the command again after I already told her once, I will give her a leash correction. so my question was, since Bob said to "get rid of the leash" do you mean NO leash corrections for this phase or do return to the dog to administer a leash corretion?
I do not use the leash to control or position my dog at all.
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Quote: Mary Roach
The part that I needed to go back on was teaching the down from a stand instead of a sit and the whole precision heeling process, with a touch tub.
I meant this: well when I am working on distance for the sit and down stay I have been keeping a lead on her and giving her something like a level 1 or maybe even .5 correction (shes a soft dog) should I be returning to her to administer correction and not giving it through the leash?
I should have said "I suspect (from "return to her") that you may have introduced distance and/or duration too quickly, but I can't see you so I can't be sure --- but I know that if that's the issue, you'll see it watching the DVD."
If you have to go back to her ("return to her") OR "administer through the leash," this says to me that you are too far away, physically, for where you and the dog are on the proofing scale. It says that duration and/or distance probably haven't been gradual enough.
Leash corrections added to what seems to be proofing skipped (for duration and distraction, which includes your distance from the dog) makes me say that re-watching the marker DVD (Power of Food, or, if you're new to markers, then Power of Markers, linked earlier) is going to be very helpful.
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