Greg Meyer wrote 10/26/2012 11:54 AM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368483 - 10/26/2012 11:54 AM
Greg Meyer Webboard User Reg: 12-24-2009 Posts: 482 Loc: Dayton, OH Offline	I can eat dirt and not have any ill effects. My wife, however, has an allergy to sulfites, found as a preservative in many foods. It's amazing how many things she has to avoid. Can't have wine or anything with wine in it, packaged or bottled grape and lemon juice, many processed or dried foods like au gratin potatoes, all seafood, store brand tortillas, etc. If she is unlucky enough to eat something with sulfites in it, her heart rate skyrockets, airways swell up, she gets a red rash all over, and bad gastrointestinal problems (if you know what I mean). She has to carry an Epi pen where ever she goes. Really makes it a challenge going to restaurants. Bailey
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Katie Finlay wrote 10/26/2012 11:56 AM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368484 - 10/26/2012 11:56 AM
Katie Finlay Webboard User Reg: 07-27-2009 Posts: 1421 Loc: Southern California Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland I have had the symptoms you describe. Exactly. Including feeling fine in the a.m. until I ate. I assumed gluten. But I started by eliminating wheat and dairy. Symptoms GONE. Added back in a little wheat. Symptoms still GONE. Starting to think that after a lifetime of being a milk-drinker, I can't drink it any more. Yep. Probably dairy. For me it's lactose and casein. Casein plays a big part in allergies. I can handle hydrolyzed whey protein but not regular whey. I use almond milk for everything. Earth Balance makes a decent margerine. Daiya makes okay vegan cheese. The nice thing is that eggs aren't dairy so I can still get some solid protein from them. Intolerance is usually more gastrointestinal issues, whereas an allergy is generally more "whole body" affecting. http://littlesabledog.wordpress.com/
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/26/2012 12:26 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368485 - 10/26/2012 12:26 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Well, this is whole body, EXACTLY every symptom you described. I now have cartons of unsweetened almond and coconut milk in the fridge. Can't drink either one yet, but both are fine on oatmeal, in iced coffee, etc. I looked at that cheese. sigh It's mostly oil. So I picked up almond cheese. Yay! Then I read the ingredients .... milk casein. It's stunning to me that the symptoms were so bad and are so gone that I actually gave up dairy. After many decades of serious milk consumption! I love milk! Maybe addiction is part of how bad it is for me. Katie, did this come on in a certain period of time? I mean, can you look back and see the onset? I know I didn't have this problem all my life. I can kinda pinpoint it to about a year ago (but no idea what it was until a week ago).
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Joyce Salazar wrote 10/26/2012 12:57 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368489 - 10/26/2012 12:57 PM
Joyce Salazar Webboard User Reg: 02-28-2008 Posts: 2075 Loc: Dallas, Texas Offline	I recently found a great farm that sells raw, unpasteurized milk. I have read that many who haven't been able to tolerate milk, can when it's raw milk. You may or may not want to look into this, if it's of interest to you. I love the raw milk, and the raw yogurt and cheeses this farm produces. It may be hard to find a stringent, high quality farm near you, but if you can, I think it's worth a shot. Maybe not? It's up to you. ETA: http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/raw_milk_health_benefits.html Joyce Salazar
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Katie Finlay wrote 10/26/2012 01:06 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368490 - 10/26/2012 01:06 PM
Katie Finlay Webboard User Reg: 07-27-2009 Posts: 1421 Loc: Southern California Offline	Yeah, fake cheeses are pretty impossible. It's processed stuff made from processes stuff. Sigh. I was never a big milk drinker. As a baby my mom said I would spit up a lot. I've had migraines since I was a kid. I want to say after high school is when I noticed I never felt good. I was that person that was sick all the time without physically being or looking ill. It's made such a huge difference, it's crazy. The other day I ate out and had a lot of dairy and the way I felt up until today was pretty bad (I ate it Sunday). It takes a while to get out of my system but it's been so worth it, I'm a foodie so it's been really hard, but I've definitely learned a lot about dairy free dining and cooking!! http://littlesabledog.wordpress.com/
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/26/2012 01:13 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Joyce Salazar ] #368492 - 10/26/2012 01:13 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Joyce Salazar I recently found a great farm that sells raw, unpasteurized milk. I have read that many who haven't been able to tolerate milk, can when it's raw milk. You may or may not want to look into this, if it's of interest to you. I love the raw milk, and the raw yogurt and cheeses this farm produces. It may be hard to find a stringent, high quality farm near you, but if you can, I think it's worth a shot. Maybe not? It's up to you. ETA: http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/raw_milk_health_benefits.html I live where this kind of minimally processed food flourishes and is readily available. In fact, raw milk (cow and goat) are two blocks away at every Wednesday's farmers' market, as well as three blocks away at the natural food store. But I'm afraid to undo what I've achieved!
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Joyce Salazar wrote 10/26/2012 01:14 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Katie Finlay ] #368493 - 10/26/2012 01:14 PM
Joyce Salazar Webboard User Reg: 02-28-2008 Posts: 2075 Loc: Dallas, Texas Offline	http://www.sandcreekfarm.net/ This is the farm I go to. Just for reference, if interested. Joyce Salazar
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/26/2012 01:15 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Katie Finlay ] #368494 - 10/26/2012 01:15 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Katie Finlay Yeah, fake cheeses are pretty impossible. It's processed stuff made from processes stuff. Sigh. I was never a big milk drinker. As a baby my mom said I would spit up a lot. I've had migraines since I was a kid. I want to say after high school is when I noticed I never felt good. I was that person that was sick all the time without physically being or looking ill. It's made such a huge difference, it's crazy. The other day I ate out and had a lot of dairy and the way I felt up until today was pretty bad (I ate it Sunday). It takes a while to get out of my system but it's been so worth it, I'm a foodie so it's been really hard, but I've definitely learned a lot about dairy free dining and cooking!! So you noticed it after high school .... but you think that was when it got bad, or that was just when you realized it?
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Christi Coufal wrote 10/26/2012 01:28 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368495 - 10/26/2012 01:28 PM
Christi Coufal Webboard User Reg: 08-12-2011 Posts: 72 Loc: Offline	I did a simple blood test and found out I am mildly allergic to milk and highly allergic to eggs. We have chickens and I had been eating omlets with cheese for breakfast. I lost 3 lbs in 5 days once I eliminated both from my diet. Eliminated the swelling, fatigue, and bloating symptoms. I never had any extreme symptoms but just general blagh! At first it was hard to eat out and even cooking at home was a challenge. Now, I occasionally have some dairy in the form of cheese when we go out but that is not often. We have noticed that my son's acne cleared up when I quit bringing dairy products in the house also. Through research, I have learned that I can get all the nutrients I need from other sources. I see no need in going back to my old ways of eating.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/28/2012 06:29 PM Re: food intolerances (humans) [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #368497 - 10/28/2012 06:29 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	What made you turn to food allergies/intolerance? I know for me it was pure luck ..... I heard someone else describe the symptoms that Katie described (and that I had, but NEVER thought of food ..... I was checking thyroid, thinking certain GI problems, thinking depression-fatigue, and much more). When the person I heard describing the symptoms ended up with "dairy allergy," and I looked up all my symptoms, they were all there. The fatigue (extreme fatigue .... lie-on-couch fatigue) threw me off most. So how did you all get pointed toward food allergy/intolerance (besides Katie, whose chiro brought it up)?
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