 Re: Reporter gets bit by police dog
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#382166 - 08/23/2013 12:19 PM |
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Like the others have said, this was as painful to watch as the first time it was posted. Both the officer and the reporter were at fault. The officer for not being protective of his dog and offering some advice to the reporter before the segment on how to properly meet and show affection to a strange dog. The reporter for just being an idiot. You can tell it was going to be bad just by the annoying way the reporter was patting the dog on the top of the head. That's a cardinal sin all by itself and a sure indication of how uncomfortable he was around dogs. I'd have bitten him too if he patted my head like that.
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Re: Reporter gets bit by police dog
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#382167 - 08/23/2013 12:35 PM |
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Handler error IMO. Don't ever put your dog in that position. Cameras, microphones, crowded in on by a stranger, no brief to the reporter about what not to do. Letting him grab the dog by the neck. Missing the signs of stress. And no way is that a dominant dog.
I am myself guilty of having my dog bite people while on my leash, but I never set someone up to get bit like that. Her bites were in situations we were forced into, and I still consider them all my fault. Nobody made this handler allow his dog to be hugged.
Even after Fama had calmed down considerably, I was still super careful around the reporters that were following us around. I spent time before every mission and photo shoot to brief them on what not to do.
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#382168 - 08/23/2013 12:54 PM |
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Handler error IMO. Don't ever put your dog in that position. Cameras, microphones, crowded in on by a stranger, no brief to the reporter about what not to do. Letting him grab the dog by the neck. Missing the signs of stress. And no way is that a dominant dog.
I am myself guilty of having my dog bite people while on my leash, but I never set someone up to get bit like that. Her bites were in situations we were forced into, and I still consider them all my fault. Nobody made this handler allow his dog to be hugged.
Even after Fama had calmed down considerably, I was still super careful around the reporters that were following us around. I spent time before every mission and photo shoot to brief them on what not to do.
Solid post! You have to expect that a reporter (or any other layperson) might not be aware of what this dog could do, and that you can work around. There is no excuse for the actions of the handler. Based on the interview, he and the dog were fairly new acquaintances and weren't completely familiar with each other at that point in time. Therefore, his first, and biggest, mistake was agreeing to the interview and interaction in the first place. If the news channel wanted to do a feature on police canines, they should have been directed to an established team, for several reasons.
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Re: Reporter gets bit by police dog
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#382169 - 08/23/2013 12:59 PM |
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I agree it was stupid of the handler, but the commentary given by AP is stupid as well.
The reporter wasn't hurt worse because the dog just wanted him out of his space, not because of the "quick thinking" of the clueless handler.
I just feel bad for the poor dog put in that situation. 
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#382170 - 08/23/2013 02:15 PM |
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Commentary is stupid most of the time. It's written by sensationalists.
I totally agree with you Karen.
Duane, I would have done the interview. I just wouldn't have allowed the make-out session with my dog LOL
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#382180 - 08/23/2013 11:42 PM |
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I love the video for education purposes.
Never have a seen anything filmed where a dog is giving such clear signals.
And where a person is doing everything wrong.
And where a handler is oblivious.
It is a great education tool.
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#382189 - 08/24/2013 11:18 AM |
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People misread dogs all the time...its so obvious how uncomfortable the dog was.
I have to tell people all the time Logan is NOT friendly. His high tail wagging is not friendly. They think because I redirect him that I am keeping him back from saying "hi". Most of the time he completely ignores people, they can stand right next to him or brush against him and he doesn't care...hard to explain sometimes to some people.
One time when I had only had Logan for a few months and though he had never done anything, his body language put up some red flags. This guy didn't believe me and decided to argue angrily how I was a jerk and idiot for not letting my dog socialize with his dog or him (he was very pissed because I kicked his lab so it would stay away from my dog). The conversation ended with me holding Logan back reared on his hind legs baring his teeth at the guy.
David, maybe we should make an instructional video starring Logan and Fama about what body language is NOT friendly.
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#382209 - 08/25/2013 12:41 PM |
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You are right. MOST people misread dogs.
How many think a wagging tail means "he just wants to play/be friends/say hi" ?
What scares me (and it's something this reporter did a version of) is when parents allow little kids to run up and hug a dog, obscuring his eyes and face, grabbing, looming .... doing the top things never to do, all wrapped into one.
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#382213 - 08/25/2013 03:18 PM |
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An instructional video about body language (and emphasis on how to approach) would be great for youtube. Something like this:
Squinty eyes, lowered ears, loose waggly body and tail; usually friendly. Explain and give some examples.
Raised curved tail, head down, pulling, whining...prey drive, sometimes demonstrated towards small children...red flag!
Stiff wagging tail (raised or lowered), frozen posture, hard stare, backing away, eyes oriented towards hand...all red flags!
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