Does anyone teach plain ole "NO!" any more?

Just to add from the ACO standpoint, although you feel as though your pup is "incapable" of doing lethal damage, you could be held responsible civilly and criminally if someone became injured because of your dogs actions ie, you are walking your dog down the stairs, someone is coming up, your dog barks at them or lunges or tries to jump on them they lose their balance fall, break an arm, leg, or their head you could be held responsible for any and all damages including if they die from that head injury. When I did AC we'd get calls all the time from lawyers looking for reports, etc. Lawyers LOVE dog related injuries.

 Quote: Anne Jones

BEHAVIOUR / TEMPERAMENT : Of good, moderately sharp temperament, courageous and valliant but not biting, very devoted to his master. Incorruptibly good guard, distrustful of strangers; pleasant companion dog and obedient, whilst maintaining a strong individuality.

Taken from the kennel club USA site

http://www.kennelclubusa.com/karst_ovcar.htm

Peter's 6 month old dog IS Already Biting his NEIGHBORS -- "Commercials" for Breeds will not usually Highlight DANGEROUS Tendencies in the Dogs they are Promoting ... Karsky Ovcar need seriously Dog-Savvy owners, especially if living in an URBAN CONDO with very Tight COMMON Areas that must be Navigated amidst Innocent tenants !!! At the absolute least, this dog should be wearing a fail-safe MUZZLE around All Strangers for NOW.

You're getting some good words here, IMO, Petar.

Bob and Duane and Greg and others are saying that waiting for this young dog to outgrow this behavior is terribly misguided and dangerous..

You need training to happen now. And yes, this dog should be muzzled in public, meanwhile, IMO. Your post is alarming to me and (I can see) to others here.

JMO!

This is not a good situation, and you have to both manage this dog and get help from an experienced trainer, now.


All JMO.

 Quote: Duane Hull

Does anyone teach plain ole "NO!" any more?

"LIKE"

From what I know of this breed, sharing a condo complex with a bunch of strangers may pose a major problem. It's really difficult to work against a dog's genetics.

I'm sure it could be done, with the help of a trainer and using consistent corrections, but it will be a challenge to get reliability. Also, male dogs in particular tend to go through changes as they mature, becoming less outgoing and friendly toward strangers and other dogs. If he's already like this at 6 months, at 2 years you may have a 100 lb serious problem.

I always think you should work with the dog you have, but you are fighting generations of genetics here. That is why it is so important to be careful in selecting your dog or breed. The more I work with dogs, the more I realize how huge a role genetics plays in a dog's temperament.

Find an experienced trainer, and I think you have your work cut out for you! Any chance of moving to 20 private acres in the country?

 Quote: Duane Hull

Does anyone teach plain ole "NO!" any more?

NO

 Quote: Connie Sutherland

You're getting some good words here, IMO, Petar.

Bob and Duane and Greg and others are saying that waiting for this young dog to outgrow this behavior is terribly misguided and dangerous..

You need training to happen now. And yes, this dog should be muzzled in public, meanwhile, IMO. Your post is alarming to me and (I can see) to others here.

JMO!

This is not a good situation, and you have to both manage this dog and get help from an experienced trainer, now.


All JMO.

I don't think it can be said enough.
This isn't a breed that you can "let outgrow" a nipping and biting situation.
I will forever train with reward based markers but there are dogs and breeds of dogs that need to realize who is in control. That can't always be done without corrections.
Marker training in itself doesn't address aggression without the leadership and control of the owner/handler.

 Quote: Bob Scott

 Quote: Connie Sutherland

You're getting some good words here, IMO, Petar.

Bob and Duane and Greg and others are saying that waiting for this young dog to outgrow this behavior is terribly misguided and dangerous..

You need training to happen now. And yes, this dog should be muzzled in public, meanwhile, IMO. Your post is alarming to me and (I can see) to others here.

JMO!

This is not a good situation, and you have to both manage this dog and get help from an experienced trainer, now.


All JMO.

I don't think it can be said enough.
This isn't a breed that you can "let outgrow" a nipping and biting situation.
I will forever train with reward based markers but there are dogs and breeds of dogs that need to realize who is in control. That can't always be done without corrections.
Marker training in itself doesn't address aggression without the leadership and control of the owner/handler.

I very much hope that we will get an update about experienced help brought in.

To all

It some times seems like preaching to the converted. In this thread, it seems like the author has moved on to other oceans.

But then, I have not had enough coffee, so I am probably too cantankerous this morning. Or curmudgeonly. Or judgmental.

Nipping is nipping is nipping. Has nothing to do with lethality and everything to do with the fear the dog inspires in others.

A dog in the hall must be on its best behavior. The handler must be in control. No nipping, no jumping up, no bad behavior at all. And it is not on the dog but rather the handler. For a handler to assert 'I guess he'll grow out of it' is ridicules. It is a ridicules assertion for so many reasons that it fair boggles the mind.

'Average Joe's point of view' will set the rules for dogs in the condo, in the yard, on the street, in the village, town, city, etc. How your dog acts, how you act directly contributes to the limitations society places on my dogs.

Your job is to train your dog so that he does not look or act in an intimidating manner. Period.

Puppies are cute, and too many people indulge their cuteness at the expense of training. A serious error in judgement. The 'oh, he's just a puppy' defense won't hold up in court.

I did mention I'm a curmudgeon.