Bob Scott wrote 01/19/2017 11:26 PM Re: Help with crate and being alone issues [Re: Lori Hall ] #402893 - 01/19/2017 11:26 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	IMO one of the biggest mistakes people do in marker training is not learning how to wean the dog off the process and that creates a situation where the reward becomes a bribe. In your instance I would slowly start to mark and reward "randomly" once the dog really gets it. Then I would gradually move my chair further from the crate till your out of sight. Once your out of sight you can go back to marking and rewarding when she quiets down then "randomly" fade that out. I can't tell how well this will carry over to night time. How much exercise does she get before bedtime? NOT directly before bed time because that will just wind her up. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Bob Scott wrote 01/19/2017 11:33 PM Re: Help with crate and being alone issues [Re: Lori Hall ] #402894 - 01/19/2017 11:33 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Just reread your first post. don't leave the house immediately after crating her.. Crate her and stay in her site for a bit then let her out. Crate her and go to another room then return to her and let her out. Your crating her and leaving could be causing some of her excitement simply because she has learned your leaving. It was also mentioned to put a Kong with peanut butter in it with her. Another excellent bit of advice! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Lori Hall wrote 01/19/2017 11:34 PM Re: Help with crate and being alone issues [Re: Bob Scott ] #402895 - 01/19/2017 11:34 PM
Lori Hall Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2007 Posts: 1039 Loc: So. California coast Offline	She actually already sleeps in her crate at night without crying - we put her in at 10:30pm when we go to bed and she goes to sleep, then my husband gets up for work at 5 and takes her out, puts her back in the crate and she stays quiet till 6:30. So nighttime is better than during the day.
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Candi Campbell wrote 01/20/2017 10:41 AM Re: Help with crate and being alone issues [Re: Bob Scott ] #402902 - 01/20/2017 10:41 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Bob Scott I have "never" know of being allowed to whine cause separation anxiety. Exactly, Bob Fussing is a symptom of something, NOT a "cause" of anything -- It's a form of Communication ... Fussing may mean, "Don't leave without me!" or "Let me OUTTA here!" (or whatever) but it won't give a dog SA.
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Bob Scott wrote 01/20/2017 11:24 PM Re: Help with crate and being alone issues [Re: Lori Hall ] #402905 - 01/20/2017 11:24 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Quote: Lori Hall She actually already sleeps in her crate at night without crying - we put her in at 10:30pm when we go to bed and she goes to sleep, then my husband gets up for work at 5 and takes her out, puts her back in the crate and she stays quiet till 6:30. So nighttime is better than during the day. Sounds like your o the right track. Working with her in the day time should be a lot easier then night time....hopefully! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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