Re: Mislabeling breeds
[Re: Cheri Grissom ]
#405055 - 10/31/2017 09:36 AM |
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Does anyone else see a problem with somebody posting pictures of their dog and they mislabel what breed it is?
I was part of a Dutch Shepherd group but quickly found that the group condoned and encouraged people with brindle mixes (mostly pit-mixes) to call their dogs a DS. To me this is wrong, it is confusing to people unfamiliar or new to the breed. Why is it ok and accepted by so many? I don't understand why they don't just call their dog a wannabe DS or a mixed breed. I asked to please not call their dog a DS unless it was purchased from a reputable breeder, obtained from a legit DS rescue or identified by a breed expert. They all flipped out so I left the group.
Yes, I am bothered by the common practice of mislabeling breeds, too, if it is done intentionally. Oftentimes, people adopt a very nice dog from the shelter, are told it is a such-and-such mix, they don't know dog breeds well enough to believe any differently, so that's what they tell people their dog is. That's forgivable to me.
Many shelters are reluctant to come right out and call their adoptable dogs pit mixes. Bob listed a lot of reasons upthread for why this commonly happens. I don't necessarily agree with the practice, but if it helps the good dogs get adopted, I'm not that bothered by it.
However, the situation you describe, Tresa, with a group dedicated to one particular breed knowingly and willingly allowing dogs that are clearly mixes, pit or otherwise, to be included in the group, without identifying them as such, is puzzling, to say the least, and maddening, I'm sure, to those knowledgeable about that particular breed. I'm sure it is confusing to members of the public who may be interested in that breed and are viewing this group's website or other photos online for more information.
I would have left the group, too.
IMHO, with all the IDIOCY on "designer breeds" so rampant in America, I'm no longer surprised by Anything -- Disappointed or even Revolted, but not surprised
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405056 - 10/31/2017 10:36 PM |
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But how is it in US? Can you trust pedigrees? Are they controlled or could they easily be a fake like here?
For the most part yes, you can trust pedigrees...if your careful.
Where I live Missouri is one of the worst States for puppy mills.
these are the places that very often supply puppies to pet pet shops.
They can breed two dogs that may or may not have legit papers.
They send in for registration papers for a litter of 6-8 puppies even though they may only have 2-3 pups.
NOW they have extra papers that they can use as they please, even for dogs they may have found on the street or stole from somewhere.
Just one of may ways to get around registrations.
There are only so many inspectors to check on these "kennels" and they may go for yrs or forever without being found.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405059 - 11/01/2017 06:31 AM |
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What a deploreable state of affairs! Better than here but nearly as bad. Very dubious.
By the way, I'd never buy a dog from a pet shop, i've heard and seen too many awful things. But the temptaion is big. You see a suffering animal and want to save it without thinking that you only drive the trade.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405061 - 11/02/2017 01:24 AM |
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Up here everything has a husky label, and no one fixes cats or dogs. So they drop the cats off at the dump. Or toss them. The dogs are getting killed by wolves, when they are chained in unfenced dog yards. Z so far. Responsibilty is minimum with pet ownership. Up her is I find bad, as the dogs getting killed are a label of sled dog, yet half of them have not been off a chain and onto a sled! You can read up on the Canadian Eskimo Dog rescue, and see Churchill as the main rescue, yet they are all inbred, unfixed, killed, unvaccinated ( his pups spread parvo through the community yearly) and they are left on the coastline with no protection, housing, and when we get our cold weather, no feed for at least a week. North life seems to cause Irresponsibility.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405062 - 11/02/2017 06:05 AM |
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But this is heartbreaking. I do not get this attitude. Lots of people here let their dogs or cats produce young ones in a senseless and irresponsible way.
Then they're overwelmed with their pups or kittens. Some simply beat those they can't sell to death, put the cadavers somewhere in the rainforest where the vultures dispose of them . Others put their animals somewhere from where they can't find back and other ones feed them until they're ready for the pan.
To be just I must also add that there are many people who love their animals like family members and look well after them, It is a relieve to experiience this too, but unfortunately this doesn't help all the other poor creatures.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405064 - 11/02/2017 10:45 PM |
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It can be very difficult to change a country or regions culture.
We reject the consuming of dogs yet it's common in some countries.
In India they revere cattle as sacred yet we eat beef so do we really have the right to criticize another country for their eating habits??!!!
I'm not giving up beef, pork or chicken so one side of me says no.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405066 - 11/03/2017 05:12 AM |
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I do have to agree with you, Bob. I just have to see and accept this. What disturbs me much more though is when animalws are put away and abandoned., which means mostly a long and hopeless suffering.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405070 - 11/03/2017 10:43 PM |
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I agree with that totally when people know better as anyone here should but again it can also be a cultural thing.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
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#405071 - 11/04/2017 09:30 AM |
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There were also spotted pups, a solid colored pup, and one that looked like a coyote.
Some things can never be answered.
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Re: Mislabeling breeds
[Re: Cheri Grissom ]
#405072 - 11/04/2017 09:36 AM |
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Yes, I am bothered by the common practice of mislabeling breeds, too, if it is done intentionally. Oftentimes, people adopt a very nice dog from the shelter, are told it is a such-and-such mix, they don't know dog breeds well enough to believe any differently, so that's what they tell people their dog is. That's forgivable to me.
Many shelters are reluctant to come right out and call their adoptable dogs pit mixes. Bob listed a lot of reasons upthread for why this commonly happens. I don't necessarily agree with the practice, but if it helps the good dogs get adopted, I'm not that bothered by it.
However, the situation you describe, Tresa, with a group dedicated to one particular breed knowingly and willingly allowing dogs that are clearly mixes, pit or otherwise, to be included in the group, without identifying them as such, is puzzling, to say the least, and maddening, I'm sure, to those knowledgeable about that particular breed. I'm sure it is confusing to members of the public who may be interested in that breed and are viewing this group's website or other photos online for more information.
I would have left the group, too.
Yeah I can see reluctance to call a dog a pit-mix but no excuse to call it a DS...what's wrong with just simply "mixed-breed". It seems to be an ego thing to have a "purebred" or a highly specialized working breed such as the DS.
I just find it particularly disturbing that (like you said) a DS group would CONDONE mislabeling. That is nothing but pure stupidity!
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