Re: Managing a dominant dog...
[Re: Becky Niedbalka ]
#406896 - 09/30/2018 05:25 AM |
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Great to hear from you again, Becky.
Impressive what Mike describes. I for a long neglected informal training . except a few exercises like sit, down .... It makes such a difference! The ones I've randomly repeated in everyday life often enough are deely rooted in between, while others from only formal training are not really ingrained.
Wolfs again! Puh! Take care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406897 - 10/01/2018 08:31 AM |
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Good afternoon there Becky,
Yeah. A dog comes in a lot of flavors. Some are warm and cuddly, and some are miserable AHs.
I intentionally got one of the miserable AHs a few days before he was supposed to get a needle. And the first year was unpleasant, and extremely so on occasion. The second was better but still a caution. The third smoothed out, and now he is my shadow and demonstrates a level of loyalty I never would have expected in the first month of his being here.
He still is not a mutt I would allow around children or other than family adults. He apparently is uninterested in new best friends.
That noted, I am glad I didn't give up on him. We had a few come to the Lord meetings of the mind, and a lot of cold shoulder attitude. And gradually, we grew together, on my terms. He is curled up next to the couch beside me.
I think the biggest reward comes after the hardest work. And I am disinclined to give up, by temperament or maybe by genetic predisposition.
In truth, what works for me with the dog is constancy. A schedule which has the effect of conditioning a dog to my timing and rules. A training process that looks for consistency in approach, to minimize confusion. Lots of random intermediate training cues using the basic commands. Lots of acting my approval or disapproval to get the dog to read me off command, and to emphasize my feelings of the dog's behavior.
I believe in formal and informal training. Formal training periods with objectives and milestones of performance. Informal training all the time in the form of random commands all throughout the day to reinforce basic command compliance, and to remind the dog of its relationship with me, to reinforce our relationship.
I don't look for the dog to be my pal when it first arrives but see it as a growing and bonding exercise where trust gradually is the glue of the relationship.
There were times when I fleetingly questioned whether or not it was my wisest move to save the mutt from the needle. I no longer question the decision. We have grown together in the journey. I was reminded of how important adherence to rules and structure are in training, and the mutt figured out that structured life was really good and well rewarded if the rules were followed.
This long epistle is by way of congratulating you for staying the course, and an encouragement to keep at it. The light at the end of the tunnel is not a train.
Be consistent, patient, confident, fair, etc. Just persevere.
More a rah, rah moment. Not really worth two cents.
I sometimes wish we had a "Like" button. Mike is being too modest with his last couple of sentences. His advice is worth waaay more than two cents, and I always look forward to hearing from him.
Same here, in SPADES, Cheri
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406898 - 10/01/2018 08:44 AM |
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Happy Belated 1st Birthday Harry!
Hello back, Christina!
There really should be a like or star button, I know all of you would get high ratings from Me!
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406899 - 10/01/2018 09:23 AM |
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406900 - 10/02/2018 05:05 AM |
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Too sweet! Always a great pleasure to see a foto from Harry. Will you exh year bake a cake for his birthday party? He must really be feeling honoured.
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406901 - 10/02/2018 07:41 AM |
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It was wet food mixed with dry food and a few biscuits, than frozen. I woyld not bake his A holiness a cake lol!
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406902 - 10/02/2018 09:17 AM |
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Re read Mike's post again after an explosive morning. Helped me calm down.
My biggest annoyance is all the dog trainers on YouTube, never show what they do on camera to stop the reaction.
It would help me drastically.
His issue today was trying to shake the properly fitted prong collar down. But he did it as I was bringing him in, resulting in pressure, as he stopped as I was still moving . Immediately he started exploding, barking, rolling, so around I turned, back outside, 5 minutes of 180s, and straight line walkingvwoth a few zig zag. When he stopped the tantrum, I did a few sits, than tethered him to the deck, repeated in a few minutes, sane thing, lift up the leash, he tries to shake the collar down like crazy, but only when your moving, boom, explode, repeat. So I guess my day is out, pick it up, walk, rest, repeat.
And it's not the prong. It's any collar. And I put them all in before we start our day. He wants no collar. No tether, no restrictions.
Love how they get worse with an audience. But now I started letting him out earlier. So everyone is up, doing their morning thing.
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406903 - 10/02/2018 09:27 AM |
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And just to clarify, he is not scared. He will take food, or have a nap, immediately following an explosion. There is no shaking, shivering, paw lifting.
Immediately after any nonsense, he is back to normal.
On a high note, he will hold place now, so progress?
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406904 - 10/02/2018 03:20 PM |
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So I thought I woyld give it a go, since I bought a nice leather collar from Leerburg, that I would put that on firmly around the neck, where the prong woyld go, and use remote collar pressure only.
After an hour of nonsense, I finally had it, and rolled him. I had to use my boot as pressure on the neck, to keep him down. He whimpered, whined, and attempted to get up each time I took the pressure off. I only had it lightly braced, tho inside me I really wanted to hoof him for this nonsense, and I said absolutely nothing.
About 20 minutes later, I had him working on turning the pressure off, on basics, as I saw on a vid on Leerburg.
Now, he knows the commands, but is very slow to follow, and likes to end halfway.
After 20 minutes, he learned to turn off the pressure, by following the command. I used the remote, paired with the command, on low working level, for him, a 25 on a dogtra. He tried to break command, or default down on sits, but we ended it on a ling down on the deck, and he us niw going to be back in the crate, until all his nonsense ends.
So what I learned, or think what happens with him, is he is willing to pressure me to get out of following commands. He tries to control any pressure he feels, by fighting.
So I turned it around, and turned on the pressure, before he had a chance to explode, or attempt to ignore my command in favor of something else.
Open to what you think. And I do not feel guilty at all for holding him down with my foot. I think it was about time he got knocked down a peg.
I am willing to continue to use the leather collar, it is very well made, firm, and paired with the remote, we may actually get some where.
I worked him 7 times today, ignored the verbal protests for now, and only corrected when he failed to follow through.
Maybe we won't leave the yard til he is proofed. It's an acre I have to work with, so maybe for now, we stay home and work. Tho one thing I have done, is when we work in the yard, and I feel he is compliant, I take the work to the road, and continue my dog tags, 180s, and basic commands. What do you all think?
Trainer recommended CBD oil.
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Re: Managing a dominant dog...
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#406905 - 10/03/2018 06:12 AM |
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I searched in the web for CBD oil.
I found the following info:
"CBD is a component of both the marijuana plant and its close cousin, the hemp plant. Almost all of the CBD oil used in medicine is sourced from hemp.
CBD’s safety profile has been studied in dogs at Colorado State University (conclusion: safe) and research into its efficacy in seizure disorders is currently underway there. A mountain of anecdotal reports also identifies osteoarthritis, inflammatory bowel disease, allergic skin disease, appetite stimulation, and nausea relief (among others) as other potential areas of study.
High-level evidence on efficacy is scant, to be sure, but CBD oil is considered safe and effective."
They also say it is illegal.
On another site: "There is almost no published research on the use of CBD in animals. Some research is being performed at Colorado State University on the use of CBD for pain currently, but as with most research projects, the results won’t be available for some time. Therefore, practitioners who want to recommend or dispense CBD must do so based on information from anecdotal evidence—one of the worst types of evidence to rely on."
Does anyone of you know something about all this?
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