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Originally posted by brandonRay:
funny thing about skanson, i believe the only "working" female giant being bred (that i know of) that has titles on it is a skanson dog. she was a sch2 last i checked. i still wouldn't mind trying one myself.
brandon That is not correct. There may well be a Skansen bitch that is SchH2, but she is not the only one out there. The majority of titled dogs do not come from the americanized showlines. The following link may be a good resource http://www.workingschnauzer.com/

Hi Dani & everybody,

I'm new on the board .I saw that you send it since longtime ago but if you are still interested in a standard schnauzer for working purpose. Let me know. I'm a breeder and most of my line came from Europ. This year, we start to train some for schutzhund. Standard are really good working dog with a lot of drive, courage and mind. They love to learn and they do it very quickly.

Josée

Another place to look is Advancedk9.com Carl has quite a few in his club in Divide Colorado. I think he brings them in from Russia.

Hi Jeff,
this kennel have Giant Schnauzer not Standard Schnauzer .I'm breeder of Standard Schnauzer. Most of my breeding stock came from Russia , believe me they just want to work.
At the end of november, we had bought a 1year old giant schnauzer female from Russia , she is out of working line(SCH/IPO) on the both side .I just start to train her .
Last year, we had bought 2 p/s giant from a EU kennel and we had have to sold them cause they were more like coach potato labrador (I don't want to insulte any body with labrador ) than a true Giant working dog.

what is the size difference? my groomer likes schnauzers and was grooming a standard maybe 20 inches high. I thought that was a miniature. Help me out here.

Hi Jeff,
the size is for:
miniature :12-14inches for male and female
standard : female 17-19inches
male 18-20inches
giant : female 23½-25½inches
male 25½-27½ inches

many breeder of miniature schnauzer have oversize one or "toy one", like in many breed they tried to changethe breed, I don't know why except for amking money with "rare dog"

Sorry for the late reply, but wanted to give you a word of caution. There are dogs that are capable of obtaining a SchH title and then there are dogs that are fun to work in the sport.

I don't doubt that some schnauzers (giant or std.) out of non working lines could obtain SchH titles, but how easily and under what circumstances? If you are new to the sport, you really want a dog that was bred for bite sports. It'll make life a lot more fun for you.

So, I would advise you to look at the PSK magazine that is available online. Here is the link for the Nov. issue PSK Link . You'll see some advertisements for standards, you want to look for parents who are VPG and/or IPO titled. Even in Germany, the VPG titled standard is pretty rare.

The other thing that you could do is look at the trial results. The standard is simply "schnauzer" in Germany. Look for schnauzers with trial results for VPG or IPO. If by "working" you are looking to participate in non bite sport areas, then your choices are much broader.

Hope this helps.

Soo

Soo,
I agree with you , it's why most of all my dogs came from Russia who have been breed for bite sport they are really different from american standard and giant , I have 2 sister Standard from Russia of 5 months old and they have a very high prey drive , they love to bite the tug and they have a really good grip.
But I think that it's the same for most of the breed, no.

Sport work would be fine, but for protection I'd question the capability of a small dog.

Now, don't get me wrong. . .I like small dogs. One of the coolest KNPV dogs I saw was a 47lb female Dutch Shepherd who put grown men on their azzes.


The dog has to make up for the weight though in speed, agility, and fight. I question if a Standard Schnauzer does, from Russian "working" lines or no.

I haven't seen one, I admit, but I'm seriously skeptical.

vancamp,
i would have to agree with you, i think one would be lucky enough to find one suitable for sport, much less protection work. and actually, the same goes for the giant. the giant does have a handfull of u.s. breeders trying to do something with the breed as far as working goes, though, unlike the standards.
brandon