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[Re: Kay Solano ]
#75786 - 06/11/2005 06:22 AM |
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Thank you Richard. I can control my dog, but you (the public in general) cannot. Do you hand your kids to everyone? Did you pass your babies around to everyone who met them?
It's about control. I can control my dog because I control the interactions he has. Sabian's prey drive is high, and so is his fight drive. The last thing I need is some yahoo doing something strange to my puupy, and making him afraid of strangers (like that simple gilr in petsmart). Why would you grab a strange dog from behind. Besides, we al know that dogs have different temperments, and need different treatment. I'm not going to keep my dog at home just because he is a little aggressive or shy. Ed reccommends that you socialized the beast out of him, but do it the right way. Protect your dog from untrained people.
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: Denise Williams ]
#75787 - 06/11/2005 07:04 AM |
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The issue is simple "Personal Responsibility of owning a dog" no vest or t-shirt will help. It's about you the owner/handler, taking the responsibility of protecting and handling their dog. We all know, there is a vast array of stupid people in the general public. Ed, has it right in his dvd's. You the handler control who greets and treats your dog or pup. It is up to you to assess the situation and do what's best. If that means simply, turning and walking away or stopping someone cold. Simply explain, to them: Why you don't want them touching your dog. I know this is a pain in the a$$. But, you must protect your dog and yourself. A bad situation can set your training back and open you up to serious civil/criminal penalties if your dog were to bite someone.
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[Re: Tracy Brown ]
#75788 - 06/11/2005 07:16 AM |
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I'm kind of confused as to when/when not to let people pet your dog. How can you socialize him without others touching him? Or is it just for the working dogs that you don't let them touch? Is it okay as a puppy to let them touch him?
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: Tim Redd ]
#75789 - 06/11/2005 09:08 AM |
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Tim,
You can socialize a dog to be neutral to people in a situation ( ie, non-reactive ) where the dog has no expectations of receiving a pet from a person. This is what we strive for in PPD's where the owner demands that the dog can go into a social situation.
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#75790 - 06/11/2005 10:14 AM |
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Will - Do you find that GSDs are naturally non-reactive to people outside of their 'family'? My GSD has little or no interest in strangers, but by no means have I trained her this way (here is where my inexperience shows lol). I must say I was surprised that so many people do not want others to pet their dogs, but after reading this thread I understand why, especially during initial training. I think this also plays into some of what I have read relating to your dog looking to you for all things.
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: Melissa Hoyer ]
#75791 - 06/11/2005 03:13 PM |
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Tracy,
I have discovered that I will have to be rude to some people in order to protect my dog. I was turning the corner carrying a bag of dog food, when some stranger reaches out an strokes Sabian's head. There just was no way to stop that.
Will, do you have some info on how to do that? Is it in one of the Leerburg tapes? My pups not a PPD, but I do want him to calm down around others, and not to knock everyone over. I want to walk through a crowd without him being afraid someone will grab him, or without sniffing, nipping or knocking into people. A 100lb gsd simply cannot greet everyone he meets like that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: Denise Williams ]
#75792 - 06/11/2005 06:36 PM |
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I know you asked Will R, but here's my 2cents. We practice socialization at the club I belong to. Some of the dogs are working on thier Bh, some are PPDs, some are K9s and my dog because I brought the beer <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I like to use the local park just for that purpose. That way I pretty much can control the exposure.
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: Dennis Jones ]
#75793 - 06/12/2005 03:39 PM |
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How should I react when it happens? I'm not sure if I should correct him stongly, because he's still a pup. I'm concerened that he won't grow out of it if I don't correct him he will barrel into people and grab them (he really grips with his jaws). I'm getting into a training question about biting here, so I may need to take this to another thread.
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Re: Another re you don't want strangers to pet ur
[Re: jeff oehlsen ]
#75794 - 06/12/2005 09:10 PM |
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I don't understand the obsession. If your dog is not good with people keep him the ____ home.
So are you suggesting that I keep a high energy Lab and boxer at home in a small yard? It doesn`t work that way. I take our dogs to a large open field and we play ball and chase. I prevent people from petting our dogs because Einstein is afraid of people and Elvis doesn`t like the top of his head being petted. Even with Morris who likes people I prefer they ask first. It gives me a chance to ask them not to pet Einstein but instead throw the ball for him. I can explain that Elvis doesn`t like his head being touched but they can stroke his back. Kids under about 13 I never allow to touch Elvis or Einstein. They cantoss a ball or treats but otherwise I just can`t trust them. I`ll let just about anyone pet Morris because he works as a therapy dog and I know that just about nothing is going to bother him.
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#75795 - 06/12/2005 10:06 PM |
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You're taking your dogs to public property and letting them run loose when you know they are not trustworthy with other people? You are completely in the wrong. The size of your yard does not give you the right to endanger other people, particularly children.
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