 Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384187 - 10/12/2013 06:29 PM |
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if you did a " training session " , in this case , " walk " and you got maybe 4 X 5 seconds of good walking out of him , that is a success . end it there .
then why would you take the dog out on a 5 mile walk where you know he is going to act up , and basically negate everything you just got out of the training session ?
there is random walking , as i suggested , in a wooded , low / no distraction setting , where the dog can do his business , and get his ya ya's out , and then there is focussed training where you have goals and objectives based around what you know the dog can do , and what you think you can get him to do .
plan and train for the behavior(s) you want . provide for as many opportunities for the dog to be successful ( and rewarded ) as you can . prevent the things that you don't want from happening and if they do let the dog know that is not accepted and then examine why you let it happen . this is dog training .
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384199 - 10/12/2013 08:16 PM |
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Oh there was no training sessions today, the first outing was the 5 miles.
But I see what you meant. Set him up for success.
I actually had 10 mins of success the last 2 days (treats and uturns but still) and I think I got too confident.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384202 - 10/12/2013 09:08 PM |
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"Oh there was no training sessions today, the first outing was the 5 miles. "
There should have been a plan ... thought out, and based on the successes of the most recent training sessions. 
It's not constructive to take a few minutes' worth of success in walking and turn it into a 5-mile failure, complete with frustration/irritation.
Set him and you up for success. Anything else is counterproductive.
Every day, make a plan building on recent successes.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384212 - 10/12/2013 11:10 PM |
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Oh there was no training sessions today, the first outing was the 5 miles.
But I see what you meant. Set him up for success.
I actually had 10 mins of success the last 2 days (treats and uturns but still) and I think I got too confident.
Confidence is a necessity but you just have to realize yours and your dog's limitations at this point in training.
Confidence will be read by the dog as easily as he reads your frustration and lack of enjoyment in the training.
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Time - distance - distraction. You can only work on one at a time.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384213 - 10/12/2013 11:14 PM |
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I suck at this.
I can't believe I will ever be able to train him. You guys say things that should be common sense but they don't cross my mind until you say it and I'm like 'why didn't I think of it'?
I also did something so dumb right now that I've been sitting here for 20 mins in shock.
There's this dog he plays with (there are 3-4 dogs in the park I let him play with sometimes when they pass by) and they run around so fast and in such patterns that it's dangerous keeping him on the line.
So after 5 mins of it I let him off. I'm an idiot, I should've just stopped the play.
So they play, leave and he follows them to the entrance and there's a strange dog there on leash and Boomer starts barking at him and circling.
Omg, this was soo embarrassing, it took me more than a minute to catch him. The owner must think I'm one of those owners and he's probably right.
I learned my lesson but I'm still embarrassed about it.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384216 - 10/12/2013 11:44 PM |
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No damage and you said you learned from it. All is good!
See! You said in the same post that you'll never be able to train him yet you learned something already. 
Dog parks are a disaster waiting to happen.
You may have the world's best trained, under control dog on the planet but you will NEVER control the other people or dogs. Your dog does not need other dogs to be happy. You and your family are his pack.
If you don't have absolute control on your dog it shouldn't be off lead in any situation that you don't have complete control.
Did I mention that I have absolutely "NO" use for dog parks?
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384217 - 10/13/2013 12:00 AM |
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No damage and you said you learned from it. All is good!
See! You said in the same post that you'll never be able to train him yet you learned something already.
Dog parks are a disaster waiting to happen.
You may have the world's best trained, under control dog on the planet but you will NEVER control the other people or dogs. Your dog does not need other dogs to be happy. You and your family are his pack.
If you don't have absolute control on your dog it shouldn't be off lead in any situation that you don't have complete control.
Did I mention that I have absolutely "NO" use for dog parks?
Almost no damage. I'm extremely embarrassed. I go out of my way to be a responsible owner and it bothers me when things like this happen.
It's not a dog park, it's a regular large park with playgrounds, tennis and basketball courts and grass fields. Dogs re allowed and after 9pm it's off leash.
I go after 10 pm and stay till 1-2, so almost no one is there and I always stay by myself in the opposite corner from where everyone gathers.
It's the only park I can consistently go to so that he can get some exercise.
In this situation it was my dog that was the problem. I'm upset about this, we just got home, I can't stop thinking about it
Right before I took the leash off i said to the other owner 'it's Murphy's law, this will be the time that someone passes by and I have to chase him all over'
And then I took off the leash.
Wtf??
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384285 - 10/13/2013 11:19 PM |
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Dog park or ball park your dog is in no way ready to be off lead.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384296 - 10/14/2013 12:43 AM |
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Dog park or ball park your dog is in no way ready to be off lead.
Oh I know, that was the dumbest decision. Something good came out of it, now I won't let him off even for a second.
Also, I feel a little better. I saw the same guy today with his dog and he saw that my dog was on leash so hopefully he doesn't think too bad of me.
I apologized yesterday, of course, and told him that my dog is usually leashed and today he got to see it.
I really don't want to look irresponsible, those kinds of dog owners annoy me and I don't want to be one of them.
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