Nancy Stinson wrote 01/08/2006 10:04 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #93803 - 01/08/2006 10:04 PM
Nancy Stinson Webboard User Reg: 12-26-2004 Posts: 164 Loc: Tennessee Offline	We have progress. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> After only 5 days of not feeding any dry kibble, Kato's nasty looking patch around his one eye is not red, seeping or inflamed. And the picky eater, Princess, ate her first chicken wing tonight. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I am so happy!!
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Jenni Williams wrote 01/08/2006 10:05 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Nancy Stinson ] #93804 - 01/08/2006 10:05 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Congrats! Isn't it strange how something as simple as a chicken wing can excite us so? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Lisa Ewan wrote 01/09/2006 04:39 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Jenni Williams ] #93805 - 01/09/2006 04:39 PM
Lisa Ewan Webboard User Reg: 12-11-2005 Posts: 232 Loc: Manchester, U.K. Offline	Sorry to jump in on this but is there a way to feed raw without the actual 'bone' bit? I'm sorry and I know it's MY problem but I just couldn't feed bones and I know my dog is losing out but I just can't do it. Is there an alternative to that bit??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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Ian McVey wrote 01/09/2006 04:53 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Lisa Ewan ] #93806 - 01/09/2006 04:53 PM
Ian McVey Webboard User Reg: 09-01-2005 Posts: 110 Loc: Offline	You can always buy fine ground, bone in meat. That way you dont see the bone and the dog still gets the benfit. I know there are other things you can add but others would be a better source of that info.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/09/2006 05:05 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Lisa Ewan ] #93807 - 01/09/2006 05:05 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Sorry to jump in on this but is there a way to feed raw without the actual 'bone' bit?.... Is there an alternative to that bit??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> It can be done, yes. However, you would have to be careful to feed the correct amount of bonemeal or bone powder/eggshells, and it would require more care than feeding the RMBs that dogs' systems have evolved with. It cannot be overemphasized, though, that feeding meat with no bones or bonemeal completely distorts the calcium/phosphorous ratio that the dog needs and is a dietary catastrophe. Here's a site that does a good job of addressing that aspect of raw: http://www.caberfeidh.com/NaturalDiet.htm It can be done, but I wouldn't do it without reading Billinghurst and/or Pitcairn first, and using their guides carefully. (I know there are others, too, but these are two I can recommend personally. Pitcairn's book completely and pemanently changed the way I care for my dogs.)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/09/2006 05:07 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Ian McVey ] #93808 - 01/09/2006 05:07 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: You can always buy fine ground, bone in meat. That way you dont see the bone and the dog still gets the benfit. I know there are other things you can add but others would be a better source of that info. Oh, that's 100% correct, and I forgot to say that! A grinder at home, too, would allow you to leave the bones in the RMBs but not have them be in "bone form." Good point, Ian!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/09/2006 05:43 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #93809 - 01/09/2006 05:43 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .....Pitcairn's book completely and pemanently changed the way I care for my dogs.) Sorry; I'm a tad scattered today. Here's another P.S. I forgot to add that Pitcairn's book has been updated (in 2005) and is a better choice than the 1995 edition. I also forgot to mention that he wrote his book before the problems with grains and dogs had been studied and documented. I still think his book is excellent; I just factor in what I now know about cereal grains and their effect on dogs when fed in large quantities.
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Lisa Ewan wrote 01/09/2006 06:13 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #93810 - 01/09/2006 06:13 PM
Lisa Ewan Webboard User Reg: 12-11-2005 Posts: 232 Loc: Manchester, U.K. Offline	Thanks Connie, I knew you'd come up trumps!!! i need to do a lot of reading and take it from there. Do you get the ground in from the butchers? sorry! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> readily available? Only i don't know personally ANYONE WHO FEEDS RAW.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/09/2006 06:47 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Lisa Ewan ] #93811 - 01/09/2006 06:47 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: ... i need to do a lot of reading and take it from there. Do you get the ground in from the butchers? sorry! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> readily available?... You can ask the butcher to do anything you like. Even supermarket butchers.......if you ring the little bell they will come out and (for example) slice a steak in fajuta slices, or grind the cut you choose from the roasts, or de-bone. You just do the rest of your shopping and come back for it. Also, there are good grinders for sale online, like Maverick. So you could actually follow the http://www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm meal suggestions, only grinding the RMBs first (or having them ground first). IMO, the http://www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm site is excellent. It doesn't matter that it's for Boxers. But if you're going to do away with bones and use bonemeal, etc., then I really believe you must read up carefully. RMBs just come in the right bone-meat ration (funny how that works), so there is less calculating to do.
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Ian McVey wrote 01/09/2006 06:52 PM Re: Help with Raw Diet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #93812 - 01/09/2006 06:52 PM
Ian McVey Webboard User Reg: 09-01-2005 Posts: 110 Loc: Offline	What does everyone pay for raw? I just found a butcher that can get me 40 pound cases of chicken backs for $27.50 and that sounded great compared to some things I have seen. Just wondering how that compares to prices across the country. What sort of places does everyone get their meat from? Our local KMart (of all places) has great buys on pork neck bones, beef necks, lamb necks, etc. Can get it all under $1/pound. Just being nosy about the rest of the country. lol
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