UH, I do not feel foolish because I was commenting on the blatant errors on the sites I looked at or got to come up. I must have missed the whole Heather thing because I read the Heather was almost scammed by this gal. That was my initial thought when I read the posts.

David,
Why is Heather not on the board to tell her story and maybe we would have a better way of making sense of this.
You quote what she writes and act as if you know they are facts, Do you know her personally?
You write that Debbies was jealous of Heather from having healthier rescue dogs than her , well what is Heather doing breeding if she does rescues? Is she breeding the rescue dogs? After all we are talking about dogs registered under APR.
I find this whole story weird, like my mother always said if it doesn't make sense it aint true...

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By the way,
Melissa are you defending Debbie? I don't get your reply , sorry.

No. I don't know who it is. I'm just thinking outside the box.

Well I think outside the box too but when stories don't make sense, one must ask the questions...

I stand by my comment. Her website speaks for itself. She is breeding two dogs that have not had their hips tested, the sire is *131* pounds at 22 months (131 pound teenage GSD?!?!), and there is no age on the dam. No sign of any training on these two dogs. Pups will be APRI registered and she wants 2500 for the picks. What part of this sounds like a reputable breeder? Sorry, I just don't buy the halo above this breeder's head.

Not to mention that her YUKON has located a missing child but yet he is doing "well" on his traking, what a bunch a croc..
He also stopped an invasion from happening, gee what a dog huh?
That dog should be on the news! what a BS story that is.
Also ,so much to mention, but he is not a stud for "any" females only to special females. What, females who also have pending Hips rating and weight 100 lbs??
I couldn't help noticing the choke chains he had one on the only "stud Photo" (what a photo that was) those type of choke chains are not used by hanlders (that know anything about dog training) in a long time.
But hey great web site, for a scammer that is

Well, I know several people who had the intent to breed but end up running a rescue. When I was searching for a malamute I ran in to plenty of reputable people who was going to/did breed but got sucked up by a rescue. I think Heather might've been the same. She is trying, I'll give you that. Its not easy to recognize a con artist(debbie). I'm a good programmer and systems administrator, and I can say with confidence all people are oblivious to anything they begin or don't want to know. Heather being conned by Debbie is just "oh another one got screwed" in my eyes, it happens often in my world.

Well, nobody really knows who the shadowing figure is behind Heather, but from what I can tell... most likely Debbie. I've been around the web a long time, I know damn well what people will do. Despite the oh so gloated opinion on "people are all different", everyone is VERY predictable.

mm, well I can buy that for GSDs definitely. I don't know what Canada's dog registry systems. I can say if it was a mushing dog then the best stable mix line would be best, which are made by "true breeders". I guess breeds like GSDs must have pairs which are most stable. Malamutes are the most perfect(genetically) dog, its kinda hard to screw up a breeding pair unless the person is a complete moron.


ED's Comments;

David - this is OFF TOPIC and has nothing to do with this thread.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't believe that anyone gets sucked into doing rescue.

A person that runs a Rescue home is very dedicated to their rescues, it's a very demanding job, a lot of effort and times is put into it, and most of the time out of pocket expenses.It is a serious and huge responsibility.If you get sucked into something,anything, I doubt you are dedicated to it.Ask anyone that has run rescues or is doing rescues now, and are doing a great job, I doubt they were sucked into it.
Looking at Heathers web site is unbelievable what she is saying about her dogs.Lies and nothing substancial.Period.Pictures are worth a thousand words..
David why are you fighting this womans' battle, you seem like a nice guy , why be associated with Heathers mess? Have'nt you read her web site? She is nothing more than a back yard breeder that knows nothing about the breed she is reproducing, and she should know that, that is NOT a good thing if her heart was in the right place, the breed (gsd) does not benefit from someone like her, they suffer, and that is what we are all fighting against, people like her

David, I am really confused now. Are you saying Debbie is the "puppet master" behind Heather? Then how does Heather go through you to post? I will be the first to admit I am computer illiterate, but I know a crook when I see one & whoever runs that kennel needs to be flogged. It is a disgrace, plain & simple. That APR registration is nothing but a scam & that is like the least horrible thing on that tacky site.