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[Re: Steve Behnam ]
#153611 - 08/28/2007 02:28 PM |
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I added the "oh wait, he did" as an afterthought to underscore how dangerous a person this is. If he is so nonchalant about taking the life of an innocent, in a CROWD, with a SHOTGUN, no less, what else is he capable of? I was making a point, not being literal.
A dog is not a person. Correct. But a dog is far more than a thing!
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Re: Advice from legal perspective --
[Re: Jenni Williams ]
#153614 - 08/28/2007 02:42 PM |
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I just have a breed question, do labs attack like this more often than we hear about, as i thought most were very friendly, my sister has a few and i never think to watch them ,but watch all my gsd , so my question is it something to do with training or maybe breeding , or may be the enviroment, from the reaction of the owner, which seems with out question out of line .I wonder if he would have done that, if a grown man or her child was still there?
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Re: Advice from legal perspective --
[Re: Danita Phillips ]
#153618 - 08/28/2007 03:07 PM |
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Danita, if you think you have to watch your GSDs and not your sister's Lab's, that's a problem. A HUGE problem. I would never, EVER give one breed the benefit of the doubt over another. Based on breed only.
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[Re: Danita Phillips ]
#153620 - 08/28/2007 03:08 PM |
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Danita,
I live in a neighborhood with a lot of dogs. The most friendly, gentle dog is a lab. The dog that I watch out for the most, that charges the fence and barks at everyone, that wants to get at my GSD in the worst possible way, is also a lab.
The experts can tell us the whys and what fors and what this breed is like and what that breed is like, but my observation is that every dog is an individual, and there is a lot of behavioral variability among individuals.
Rich
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[Re: Danita Phillips ]
#153624 - 08/28/2007 03:20 PM |
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Re: Advice from legal perspective --
[Re: Jenni Williams ]
#153628 - 08/28/2007 03:28 PM |
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I added the "oh wait, he did" as an afterthought to underscore how dangerous a person this is. If he is so nonchalant about taking the life of an innocent, in a CROWD, with a SHOTGUN, no less, what else is he capable of? I was making a point, not being literal.
A dog is not a person. Correct. But a dog is far more than a thing!
Steve -
I understand exactly what Jenni is trying to say...she need not make any explanations in my mind. If you knew this dog your heart would ache as mine does as she was such a valiant, beautiful (inside and out) creature...not a person but dang sure a valued member of her family and work mate and companion to her owner and her infant son. This friend of mine is a seasoned owner of several working dogs and you can appreciate the time and trouble a working dog owner puts into their animals. Mia had many wonderful accomplishments to her credit - to me the world is a sadder place without her.
I like Howards suggestions and I will pass them on. I like Jenni's suggestion as well, but I doubt the selfish S*B will do himself in to make this world a better place.
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[Re: Rick Miller ]
#153629 - 08/28/2007 03:34 PM |
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I appreciate your thoughts, but swinging the lab from his hind legs IMO would only have resulted in swinging Mia along with the lab, I know Mia. A PB in drive must be seperated at the head, either with a break stick or oxygen deprivation, they are unlike other breeds of dogs that way. So I think she acted as appropriately as one could of. My friend has broken up many a fight and is quite seasoned. Unfortunately Mia had hold of the dog that had hold of her. The best way to prevent a PB from latchinging onto another dog IMHO is to not allow the dog to go into drive in proximity of another dog...in this instance I feel she made the best choice possible as their was a baby involved. Breaking up a fight as you have mentioned with a PB is quite difficult and can cause serious damage to another dog from what I have seen and know from other avid PB owners. Again JMHO.
Val
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Re: Advice from legal perspective --
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#153639 - 08/28/2007 04:29 PM |
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I am so sorry for what your friend is going thru. I don't know if there are similar laws there or if it would apply in this case but here in Tennessee a lawmaker pushed thru a bill after his dog was killed by a neighboring dog that the loss of a pet under such circumstances could be awarded up to $5000 dollars for their loss
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#153646 - 08/28/2007 06:32 PM |
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Looks like the owner of the lab has signed papers agreeing to euth the dog after the quarentine. I sure hope the dog was truely lost and not the way it was because the owner was a disgusting excuse for a human being. At least the danger aspect of the dog is being contained...we will see.
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#153647 - 08/28/2007 07:08 PM |
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Danita, if you think you have to watch your GSDs and not your sister's Lab's, that's a problem. A HUGE problem. I would never, EVER give one breed the benefit of the doubt over another. Based on breed only.
Oh yeah! I totally agree with you. It is stupid to assume that labs are always nice and friendly. No one needs to worry about them when they are present. Nope! They can be dangerous just like any other breeds. 
It is the owner's responsiblity to train and socalize their dogs. If everyone acts like a pack leader, we will not be having any problems. 
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