Connie Sutherland wrote 10/10/2007 03:33 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Richard Pryor ] #157786 - 10/10/2007 03:33 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	It was from the Yellowstone project. It wasn't addressing their diet in particular, either; I was just saying what I observed the wolves eating.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/10/2007 03:35 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Richard Pryor ] #157787 - 10/10/2007 03:35 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: richard pryor I've rented a couple of Wolves DVD's from Netflix. Think it was "Imax: Wolves" and "Wolves at Our Door", but they didn't talk too much about their diet. I am always looking for videos of wild canid eating habits, if you ever see one.
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Janice Jarman wrote 10/11/2007 08:00 AM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #157877 - 10/11/2007 08:00 AM
Janice Jarman Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2005 Posts: 505 Loc: Mid Missouri USA Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland  Quote: Janice Jarman I have been giving my little guys bits of the low fat/no fat cheese that is out now with the live cultures in them, can't remember the brand name right now, with their meals and have noticed a marked reduction of grass eating in my two. They don't get many veggies, mostly meat and bones. I don't know the cheese you mean. It's called LiveActive, here's a link to the website http://www.kraftfoods.com/liveactivefoods/ I really like it, so do the pups. I have a problem finding plain yogurt in a small carton, and my dogs are small, so I end up having to pitch about half the large carton of plain yogurt, because it gets old before they can finish it. The cheese comes in little snack packs. I like what you're saying about the berries, I can get those easily, and I like them, too. Janice Jarman
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Brenda Mitchell wrote 10/11/2007 08:37 AM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Janice Jarman ] #157881 - 10/11/2007 08:37 AM
Brenda Mitchell Webboard User Reg: 07-03-2007 Posts: 125 Loc: Tallinn, Estonia Offline	I wondered about the eggs triggering the vomiting, too, but it's not consistent. I only give an egg a couple times a week and the vomiting occurs with the vegies but not the egg. She kept down last night's dinner which was chicken, and egg and some parsley, but no other vegies. I'll check into the word haggis (but with no oats - good notation.)
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JessicaKromer wrote 10/11/2007 12:51 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #157929 - 10/11/2007 12:51 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	Quick question about celery. Slightly crazy, ex-GSD breeder and SCH trainer, now Siberian breeder and I were talking about feeding, and she throws out there that there is a chemical in celery that acts as a sedative/calming agent. She gives a stalk to nervous pups at shows and sometimes at night if they are not settling in their crates. Again, she is a little off (but interesting) so I smiled and moved on, but made me curious. Any truth to it that anyone here is aware of? Jessica
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Carol Boche wrote 10/11/2007 01:10 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: JessicaKromer ] #157934 - 10/11/2007 01:10 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	mmmmm, the only calming effect I have noticed with celery is when they each get a stalk to chew on. They calm right down to eat it and then are back to being over-exhuberant furry children. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/11/2007 01:12 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: JessicaKromer ] #157935 - 10/11/2007 01:12 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Celery has eugenol in it, which is the stuff in cloves that acts as an antihistaminic and antispasmodic (both properties include a calming or sedating effect). Celery has less of it, I believe. This cloves article explains it better than similar celery articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloves P.S. I think it would take a LOT of celery. Edited by Connie Sutherland (10/11/2007 01:18 PM) Edit reason: p.s.
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JessicaKromer wrote 10/11/2007 01:23 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #157937 - 10/11/2007 01:23 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	Well! Who woulda thought?! Not quite what she was talking about, but interesting, and potentially usefull! Jessica
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Angelique Cadogan wrote 10/12/2007 12:31 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Richard Pryor ] #158028 - 10/12/2007 12:31 PM
Angelique Cadogan Webboard User Reg: 10-18-2006 Posts: 1725 Loc: Las Vegas Nevada Offline	Richard, your pup has grown, he looks so cute! I don't do veggies and never will but I can respect the ones who do. i have read that they also like to eat a certain type of flower but i really never read anywhere yet that they like a variety of fruits.Wild berries but wild berries do not have the same amount if any of sugars that the berries we eat have. At the end if your dog is healthy and thriving, your RMB diet is working.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/12/2007 12:40 PM Re: vegetables?-tlive cultures-less grass eating [Re: Angelique Cadogan ] #158030 - 10/12/2007 12:40 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Angelique Cadogan Wild berries but wild berries do not have the same amount if any of sugars that the berries we eat have. I advise (and personally stick to) only low-sugar produce. And I think that green tripe is probably the #1 option. Beyond that, I try to replicate as closely as I can what wolves get in small prey's digestive system and the small amount of wild produce they eat.
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