 Re: time to go raw, but need advice
[Re: Shody Lytle ]
#174834 - 01/12/2008 09:24 PM |
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I can't get him into a vet until monday unless I drive to the E-vet which is almost an hour away. If he isn't better tomorrow, I will.
I plan on keeping him on the bland diet again, no more kibble for sure. How long should I wait once he feels better before I add back any real food? And what should be the first thing I do give him?
No need to even think about that yet. You need a better diagnosis. Balance at the moment is trumped by watery diarrhea and gas.
I would be aiming for a few DAYS of formed, normal stools before adding anything but plain pumpkin and yogurt.
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174835 - 01/12/2008 09:28 PM |
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(What you will add to his diet next, after the stools are normal, will depend on what's wrong with him now.)
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174837 - 01/12/2008 09:37 PM |
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I guess I am just thinking ahead, I would like to do some shopping for him. If you remember, in my OP I said my husband finally said we should put him on raw, so I want to get prepared, I'm not waiting for a second invitation...
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174838 - 01/12/2008 09:43 PM |
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You could start bying whole chickens or parts of chickens, or hamburger meat on sale, or hunks of roasts on sale.,
But \ wouldn't buy anything you wouldnt eat since he might be having a food issue
And raw chicken can be an issue with dogs in the throes of stomach/digestive/immune issues.
My pup had all sorts of nasties in his poo and isnt allowed raw chicken or pork for 2 to 4 months due to the bacterias present and the delicate state of his system right now.
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174839 - 01/12/2008 09:46 PM |
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Wow, really? but cooked is OK? Up until this my dog has seemed to have a cast iron stomach, and is definitely a chow hound, always on the hunt for something to eat. Maybe I will hold off. I just want him to feel better. Hopefully tomorrow will be better, since he is resting his gut right now, and no more nasty kibble for him.
Thanks for all the help and advice. If he seems bettertomorrow, will it be OK to pass on the vet? Obviously if he gets worse in any way, we will go tonight.
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174840 - 01/12/2008 09:49 PM |
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You could start bying whole chickens or parts of chickens, or hamburger meat on sale, or hunks of roasts on sale.,
But \ wouldn't buy anything you wouldnt eat since he might be having a food issue
And raw chicken can be an issue with dogs in the throes of stomach/digestive/immune issues.
My pup had all sorts of nasties in his poo and isnt allowed raw chicken or pork for 2 to 4 months due to the bacterias present and the delicate state of his system right now.
Ditto.
If you want to stock up on something for a good raw diet later, you can get the fish oil and Vitamin E, and, as Jennifer says, poultry (quarters, for example) or rabbit, some liver, maybe ground lamb or beef.
The fish oil and E are good, period, and the liver is very cheap. The rest can be used either raw or cooked, depending on what's going on with him now.
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174841 - 01/12/2008 09:50 PM |
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If he seems bettertomorrow, will it be OK to pass on the vet? Obviously if he gets worse in any way, we will go tonight.
Not lethargic, not dehydrated, no pacing or whining, and formed stools..... then I'd be OK watching him closely at home.
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174842 - 01/12/2008 09:53 PM |
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OK, I will be watching him closely, you can bet. I wouldn't want anything to happen to him. Right now he is sleeping. What are the really bad warning signs I should look for, If he was getting bloat?
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174843 - 01/12/2008 10:07 PM |
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OK, I will be watching him closely, you can bet. I wouldn't want anything to happen to him. Right now he is sleeping. What are the really bad warning signs I should look for, If he was getting bloat?
Restlessness, pacing, seeming anxious, maybe drooling and/or gagging and/or unproductive vomiting, distended abdomen, looking at his belly...
Any couple of these would send me to the vet after this experience. I think with Jennifer that his event sounded like, if not bloat, then the circumstances in which bloat happens. Also, there is no hesitating, undecided, if you suspect bloat: You have someone else call the vet to say you are on the way, you give Gas-X, and you go.
JMO.
Please keep us posted. Also, please do not allow him to go out to poop without seeing what he produces.
Don't let him eat any gassy foods (soy products, brewer's yeast, alfalfa, cruciferous vegetables) if any suspicion of bloat remains.
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Re: time to go raw, but need advice
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#174844 - 01/12/2008 10:09 PM |
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I would still take him to the vet next week for sure
but tonight I think he is fine to keep a close eye and only go if he is in obvious distress, or he seems to be getting worse.
signs of an emergency bloat...
*Foul smelling belches
*noticable swelling in his tummy,
*When Nico bloated I could actually see the gas moving around
under her skin, it was bizzarre looking,
*pacing and whining that wont let up
*Retching without throwing up
*trying to pee or poo but no results
*any listlessness or signs of graying in the gums
*weird stuff like trying to eat carpet, or licking the couch,
but only if he doesnt normally do it. I have weird dogs
*refusal to straighten out
*a protrusion predominantly on their left side
We have a list just like this printed and hanging on the fridge and one at the lake, and another at my Parents house for when they Dogsit Nico.
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