Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#186980 - 03/23/2008 11:18 AM |
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Carole, thanks,
It was a stupid question. I had read about using a chuck-it. I thought that was a pee pad (you know like the chux they use in hospitals?).
Hell, I've wondered and wondered about how to do it.
Now I realize that chuck-it is one of those things that you throw a ball with.
Please pardon my stupidity at the moment. It's getting worse, too. I fee like my grandmother. I just don't understand as well anymore.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
[Re: Nora Ferrell ]
#187030 - 03/23/2008 10:32 PM |
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Update.
I went back to strict crate/potty/eat/play/tether.
She has done better.
She ate chicken w/bone tonight. Her poo is pretty much normal today and she hasn't gone in the house. I think it was the strict take outside and if she didn't go I put her back in the crate and finally she went poo.
The peeing part is better but she is still trying to spread scent, I think. I will keep an eye for the next day and see what happens.
I think now that the slimy poo was from not having enough bone in her food for a few days.
Also, I gave her the pumpkin and yogurt mixed with the ground beef for two meals.
Thanks all for the advice and comments. It helps tremendously even if I am just freaking out and it is a minor deal.
I wonder how long she has to be on raw before I get a good feel for it. I'm still not giving any vegs and wonder if I should now.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
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#187329 - 03/25/2008 11:19 PM |
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My pup hasn't eaten since Sunday night.
I offered her chicken back both meals on Monday and Tuesday.
I don't know if I should go back to ground food or what.
This makes two days fast. She had some treats for training yesterday, but since then I have really limited any treats hoping she would eat.
How long does it take until they consistently eat meat and bone?
How long is it OK to feed just ground meat without bone?
I still don't know if this is because of the heat.
She is still frantic wanting outside and when she potty's she is still spreading scent.
She is playful.
We played a lot of fetch the ball this evening, hoping she would get tired an hungry enough to eat but she didn't.
Thanks for any replies. Like I said, I don't know if this is all a part of the heat of part of the raw diet or what.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
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#187330 - 03/25/2008 11:39 PM |
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Time for the vet. Some of the negative symptoms you mentioned have been going on for 11 days now, and now she's not eating at all. She needs a checkup.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
[Re: Sandy Moore ]
#187333 - 03/26/2008 12:03 AM |
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She will eat, just not bone in chicken.
She will eat steak, ground beef and (haven't tried today) ground turkey and chicken. She sniffs the bone in chicken but then decides she doesn't want it.
I thought before that the bones in the thighs were too big because she ate them a few times and then refused them, there was too much bone in wings(she ate them a few times then refused) and finally cut up a chicken to get the back and neck.
Sunday night (after she had several meals of ground beef) she ate the chicken back.
That's what I want to know is should I just go back to ground food and how long is ok before she has bone.
I will go to store tomorrow and get bone meal, but what about the part about being able to tear, rip, chew, etc.
Taking her to the vet is not a problem, however, I am sure I will be told to put her on dog food. My choices for a vet are the one I have always used and like and another whom I will never take a dog to again.
Also, she hasn't had her rabies yet and I don't want her to have it until she is past heat and they won't treat her without it.
She is active and playful and I have a gut feeling that she just simply doesn't want the chicken (maybe picky eater?) When she was on kibble, she was a very light eater, too. But now after two days I don't know if I should give in and feed her ground or what. At any rate, I will see that she eats tomorrow if I have to fix her bacon, eggs, and biscuits and gravy.
Will a dog be this picky?
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
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#187334 - 03/26/2008 01:10 AM |
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Yes they can be very picky, depending on their personality.
If she won't eat bone you can feed her ground bone, bone meal or calcium out of a bottle. Use the poop as a guide and she should be fine.
She ate a back, which is encouraging, so maybe it's not the bone itself but the size of it.
You might offer her some bigger bones now and then to see if she has changed her mind about them.
You can feed he steaks or meat chunks without bone and she will still get a workout when she eats.
You have just switched her and you both are having to figure it out, if I were you I'ld just give her some time to get everything figured out.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
[Re: Debbie Bruce ]
#187382 - 03/26/2008 12:25 PM |
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Thanks, Debbie.
I fed her ground beef this am and she, of course, ate it.
When I first switched her, I used ground turkey for about a week. I made some mistakes in overfeeding but finally got it right. Then I switched her to wings and she loved them. I started adding fish oil and vit E. I gave her mackerel and she loved that, too (stinky gas) also some chicken liver and gizzards. (Too much of that, so I went back to chicken w/bone. So I have been trying different things. But, now, since she has been in heat, she won't eat the chicken with bone or even a hunk of meat or chicken. I tried giving her chicken breat and ended up having to grind them to get her to eat. (Also, I gave her just a piece of the back not the whole thing.)
Maybe I am just getting discouraged but she seems to just want to eat what is ground up and she started out so good on the whole pieces.
So, it's back to 'What is causing this?' Is it due to heat or am I not feeding her the raw the correct way.
Thanks.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
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#187383 - 03/26/2008 12:30 PM |
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I may be mistaken, but are you adding any calcium (egg shells, bone meal ect..) to her diet? This is a young dog right?...like 7 months?
If she is only eating boneless meat, I think there should be a calcium supplement....due to the calcium/phosporous ratio needed like when feeding bone-in meat.....
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#187384 - 03/26/2008 12:37 PM |
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No, Carol, I am not feeding any calcium.
She has eaten the bone in chicken before and I thought all would be well. Since she is now wanting to eat only ground chicken or meat, I will be buying some bone meal today.
That was one of my questions. How long can she eat ground product before you have to supplement with calcium?
I am hoping she will get back to eating RMB's but I'm not sure how to get her to eat them. She refused chicken backs for two whole days, so I gave up and fed her ground beef this am.
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Re: Pup in heat at 7 mos?
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#187398 - 03/26/2008 02:01 PM |
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I saw Connie here earlier and was hoping she would see this. She is so much better at time tables than I.
You can feed egg with shell, and when I cook eggs or use them in baking and such, I dry the shells out and then grind them and add those to meals too.
I have not used bone meal before, when I feed a lot of ground boneless meat (usually to Jesea as I have people donate meat they do not want and she is a gulper so I like to use ground, boneless or bone-in) I use a OTC calcium supplement that I mash into powder. Have not done this in a while, so I would have to look up amounts.
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