 Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
[Re: stephanie biros ]
#202864 - 07/26/2008 10:28 AM |
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seems to me that everyone is so eager to use a pinch or an e coller. what about a correction coller, and first, train your dog to RESPECT you, indoors on leash, get the dog to focus on you, the handler, then worry about outside stuff. once you teach the dog your the focus he will pay more attention to you when it comes to distractions like poeple and dogs.
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
[Re: michael hubert ]
#202865 - 07/26/2008 11:08 AM |
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
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#202866 - 07/26/2008 11:12 AM |
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lot of people call them "choke collers" the chain collers, when used right and put on right the give a very good correction. gets the dog to focus on the owner when working your dog. quick snap release. always say, not yell, no when correcting
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
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#202868 - 07/26/2008 11:19 AM |
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...If we go on a walk, and encounter a dog, he barks, growls, tries to drag me towards them, and generally raises h*ll. I expect this and try to stop it before it starts by putting myself right in front of his face, and trying to get his attention on me. .... Kodee knows I'm in charge,
I agree, not with choke collars, but with working on attention to you without high-level distractions (other dogs and cats). It's done at home first. I think that he's been taken "on the road" with an overly-high level of expectation, too. I don't think Kodee does know that you're in charge at all times.
"Trying to get his attention on me" is done when you're not already fighting a dog who has been allowed to escalate to a stare-down. It starts at home, without the distractions of the street.
And on the street: A leash correction is done when the dog first starts to turn his gaze in the direction of another dog.
I re-read the O.P. three times and still see the dog being allowed to escalate with no correction at all as well as the handler signaling "yikes" to the dog (as you mentioned, Kori) rather than giving a quick and calm leash correction and marching on by.
Maybe it's worse than it sounds in the O.P., but that's just my take.
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#202869 - 07/26/2008 11:24 AM |
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Michael, a lot of people on this forum don't believe in choke collars, because we have seen the medical evidence that the collars are very damaging to a dog's neck over time.
I personally have experienced a dog who suffered neck injury as a result of a choke collar.
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
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#202870 - 07/26/2008 11:24 AM |
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It sounds like your little boy is becoming a man, if you catch my drift.
I'd double up on obedience for a little bit, just to help reassure him that pack structure isn't going to change.
And that too. 
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
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#202871 - 07/26/2008 11:24 AM |
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Keep him busy (fast paced ob with changes of speed and direction and eye contact) when the other dogs are in sight so that he has to concentrate on you instead of them (easier said than done).
We use the above method with better success than trying to get a dog to sit and watch us. When teaching our dogs to ignore other dogs we do abrupt changes in direction(90/180 degree turns) and pace. We start by doing it before they see a distraction/dog and then later will wait for them to notice a distraction then turn. They quickly learn that they need to pay attention to us or they won't know where we are going. Being unpredictable in our movements causes them to pay attention to us. Sitting and paying attention to us comes later when they have already learned to ignore a distraction/dog. We do this mostly with training our young dogs so it is done with a flat collar.
Shannon
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
[Re: Shannon Reed ]
#202872 - 07/26/2008 11:28 AM |
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if your hurting your dog with a correction collar ,your doing it wrong, and too hard
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
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#202873 - 07/26/2008 11:31 AM |
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I was training a 98 lbs, high energy Boxer at a year old, who would literally choke himself out pulling into a choke collar on walks.
A prong collar fixed the problem the first time he pulled into it, and he never pulled again.
Unfortunately, the damage was done, and he suffered from nerve damage in his neck for the rest of his life- thanks to the choke collar.
Autopsies conducted on dogs that were trained on choke collars their whole lives, has shown significant muscle & nerve damage. A choke collar localizes the correction to one area of the dogs neck- the portion where the links come together.
A pinch/prong collar distrubutes the correction around the dogs entire neck.
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Re: Does this sound like dog/animal aggression?
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#202874 - 07/26/2008 11:32 AM |
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and none of my clients have ever had any neck problems when using a correction coller, ever. seems now adays people are trying to get too fast results when training, nothing happens over night, training takes time, respect and distration work takes time.
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