Connie Sutherland wrote 09/17/2008 01:37 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Chuck Silverman ] #209924 - 09/17/2008 01:37 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Chuck Silverman He comes out with us. Of course, he'd also like the food rewards. ... Of course he would! Isn't food drive a wonderful thing? He has seen this exciting and happy new activity and he wants in. I wouldn't waste that eagerness.
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Chuck Silverman wrote 09/17/2008 01:47 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #209931 - 09/17/2008 01:47 PM
Chuck Silverman Webboard User Reg: 08-01-2008 Posts: 102 Loc: Los Angeles Offline	thanks again! Maybe this is too much, or another thread...but....Layla is definitely starting to feel comfy here. She's starting to exhibit a tiny bit of mouthing behavior. Any ideas what to do at this point to inhibit this? I'll do more reading on the site as well. TIA Chuck
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/17/2008 02:12 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Chuck Silverman ] #209939 - 09/17/2008 02:12 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	You're right that you want to start a different thread.
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Chuck Silverman wrote 09/18/2008 11:43 AM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #210052 - 09/18/2008 11:43 AM
Chuck Silverman Webboard User Reg: 08-01-2008 Posts: 102 Loc: Los Angeles Offline	Layla's doing really well with her training, in 5 days! I believe that she has figured out that when I stand in front of her she best behave as there may be a good consequence (i.e. the loader marker). Fun :-) I'll do more reading and re-reading to learn when and how to give a command now such as "sit". Well, I do have a question. (When don't I?). OK, she is responding to the mark "yes", I believe she has figured out what that means (a yummy treat). What is the sequence of events that should happen if I want to give the "sit" command? Is this correct? 1. Stand in front of her 2. Give the "sit" command 3. When she sits, mark the behavior ("yes") and 1 second later give the treat. If this is correct, does the "no bark" command fit in at #2 as well? Thanks again, Chuck Elaine Bosco and Layla
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/18/2008 11:57 AM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Chuck Silverman ] #210053 - 09/18/2008 11:57 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Steps sound good, IF she already knows sit. Does she? If not, I'd lure her into a sit. Later (much later; go slow and enjoy) I'd move to other rooms and other positions than standing in front of her, etc.
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Chuck Silverman wrote 09/18/2008 12:29 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #210062 - 09/18/2008 12:29 PM
Chuck Silverman Webboard User Reg: 08-01-2008 Posts: 102 Loc: Los Angeles Offline	hi Layla knows sit already. She learned that amazingly fast. Ah, so I mark the behavior (when she sits) and then give the treat, correct? Excelente! OK, now the barking stuff. Layla's beginning to "understand" that when she is barking and I stand, as Connie mentioned "like a statue in front of her", she stops barking. Isn't that great? I now can wait 5 seconds with complete silence, then I say "yes" and 1 second later I give the yummy treat! Is this the correct order of events? Chuck
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Lynne Barrows wrote 09/18/2008 12:33 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Chuck Silverman ] #210065 - 09/18/2008 12:33 PM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	Quote: chuck silverman Ah, so I mark the behavior (when she sits) and then give the treat, correct? Excelente! OK, now the barking stuff. Layla's beginning to "understand" that when she is barking and I stand, as Connie mentioned "like a statue in front of her", she stops barking. Isn't that great? I now can wait 5 seconds with complete silence, then I say "yes" and 1 second later I give the yummy treat! Is this the correct order of events? Chuck Chuck, sounds like you are making real progress. Sound like it's time for you to put a name on the silent behavior, 'Quiet', or whatver you decide, and continue to mark and reward...
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Chuck Silverman wrote 09/18/2008 12:35 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #210067 - 09/18/2008 12:35 PM
Chuck Silverman Webboard User Reg: 08-01-2008 Posts: 102 Loc: Los Angeles Offline	hey thanks. Things are progressing nicely. Now, so... Is this correct? 1. Stand in front of her 2. Give the "no bark" command 3. When she is silent, mark the behavior ("yes") and 1 second later give the treat. How would that be? Is "no bark" a "good" command or is "quiet" better? Any ideas? Chuck
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Aaron Myracle wrote 09/18/2008 12:39 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Chuck Silverman ] #210068 - 09/18/2008 12:39 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Don't get too hung up on the "stand in front of her" part. Any time she stops barking, you can mark and reward. If you get too consistant with standing in front of her, she may only connect the command with you being in front of her, and otherwise ignore or fail to understand what you ask of her. You can use any name for a command. You could say "celery", as long as you could do it without erupting into a fit of giggles. Whatever you think you'll be able to remember and use consistantly. Of the two, quiet is probably the better, just because it is shorter, monosyllabic and easy to say correctly. Sometimes with a "no" command, we forget and give the opposite command, i.e., we mean to say "no bark", but in our haste, accidently say "bark". Edited by (09/18/2008 12:41 PM) Edit reason: Add
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/18/2008 12:42 PM Re: Marker Training for barking pup [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #210069 - 09/18/2008 12:42 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: alyssa myracle Don't get too hung up on the "stand in front of her" part. Any time she stops barking, you can mark and reward. Ditto. Also shake that dog's paw. Smart dog! (I'm sure she will learn "shake paw" in seconds. )
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