Re: Just curious...
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#212417 - 10/15/2008 01:54 PM |
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And make sure, even if you are going to the vet for another reason, that you reiterate to the staff that you want no vaccinations given, especially if you are not with your dog at all times while there.
It's not unheard of for a vet to give the vaccinations in the back room, and you are unaware of it until after the fact...
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Re: Just curious...
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#212419 - 10/15/2008 02:06 PM |
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Keleah,
it helps to be very assertive with your vet--& just say NO. my friend (in SE wisconsin) recently took her dog in for (another) episode of Pano and "while she was there" BLASTED him with every conceivable vaccine under the sun. so there he was, already limping & painful and then having to contend with THAT too (plus an Rx for Rimadyl!). she got talked into it, and wanted to get all the bang for her buck they charge for the "office visit".
vaccines make up the bulk of most vets' daily totals. i managed a mixed practice for 8 yrs and its the truth....very sad. but more often than not the care of our animals boils down to the almighty dollar. to an extent this is understandable b/c we ALL have to make a living but it seems like it shouldnt be *primarily* about the money. : (
& vets dont like the new trend of owner education (unless the info comes from THEM and will increase business rather than DECREASE it.) i know of a vet that tells clients to "stay off the internet".
Lepto is the #1 ingred in the "combo shots" that dogs react to. sorry you are having to go thru this.
jen in NM
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Re: Just curious...
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#212420 - 10/15/2008 02:34 PM |
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What really irritates me is that I cannot board my dogs unless they are current on ALL of their shots! Because of this it is impossible for my husband and I to go out of town for a few days. This is the rule, not just at the boarding facility at our vet's office, but also at the independent boarding facilities that we have used in the past.
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Re: Just curious...
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#212421 - 10/15/2008 02:41 PM |
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Diane,
try to find a good home pet caretaker. its FAR less disruptive to your dogs' daily lives and usually not as expensive (especially when you subtract the cost of a bunch of shots you dont want!)
i know what you mean---all "reputable" kennels require ALL the shots and while OOH i can see that they have a high # of strange dogs with unknown medical or exposure history congregated in clsoe quarters that they are responsible for and they dont want their kennel to become "Virus Central"---still, for the owner of a healthy dog it becomes cost-prohibitive as well as unnecessary and risky. and holistic preventatives and titers dont count AT ALL.
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Re: Just curious...
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#212422 - 10/15/2008 02:56 PM |
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Jennifer,
When you say "home pet caretaker" do you mean someone that lives at our house 24/7 while we are gone or do you mean someone who stops in maybe 3 times a day and takes them out to potty?
I really can't picture either scenario working with these two wild hooligans that we are raising! I'm just hoping that when Nickie gets older he will be calmer (probably wishful thinking on my part). As it is, he just gets totally nuts when a new person comes in the house (we have him crated if we are expecting someone over).
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Re: Just curious...
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#212424 - 10/15/2008 03:27 PM |
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i mean a person who comes in 2 or 3 times a day. i had one i used for years back in PA and she got to know all of my dogs and was great w/their little idiosyncracies. they can water plants, bring in mail...etc. most are very exp dog-people who would understand hooligan-dogs! i bet you have a lot to choose from in your area. ask around...some advertise on bulletin boards in vet offices, some will even be referred BY vets for owners who wont kennel. it's SO much nicer, safer and better for your peace of mind while gone! you can also call that person and ask how they are doing, which you can do w/a kennel but i would be skeptical of the answer you get (generic: he's FINE).
goodluck.
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Re: Just curious...
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#212427 - 10/15/2008 03:57 PM |
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One thing to keep in mind:
If your animal has been seen by the vet (an office call) within the last 12 months you shouldn't have to pay for another office call just to get vaccinations if you suddenly need them. Many hospitals will make a nurse appointment where the dog's weight and temp are taken and the vaccines are given. You pay the price of the vaccine(s).
This is SOP in most hospitals/clinics I know of so don't be too quick to buy the whole "bang for the buck" argument. Maybe that would save you an extra trip but it shouldn't cost you more money.
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Re: Just curious...
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#212428 - 10/15/2008 04:07 PM |
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hi Sandy,
well, this is how they talked her into it, and she felt like the fee for the office visit for limping, which was Dx-ed as "*only* Pano AGAIN", wasn't as hard to swallow if she got all her vaccines at the same time...i dont agree with her choice, but this is how they sold it to her. along with more Rim. not sure if her vet offers the nurse appt or not.
where i am in NM, they dont offer what you describe. here, where things are about 50 yrs behind the times, an office visit is an office visit: period. and you see the vet, not a tech or nurse... weird. nice option though.
thx.
jen
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Re: Just curious...
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The vets office is a small one-a basement turned into a clinic. I make sure that my animals(dogs and cats) don't go anywhere I can't see them or be near them -unless of course they are in for surgery. So, as far as taking them into a seperate room for anything, I will not let it happen.
-As I have previously stated: If I do have any problems with this vet, I will be taking my pets to the vet in Bismarck(70 miles from where I live). They asked no questions when I told them I only wanted Rabies shots and deworming. And had no issues with my dogs on a raw diet.
I just wanted to know which, if any, vaccines should be given and if they were necessary. I appreciate everyone's input and advice.
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Re: Just curious...
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#212436 - 10/15/2008 06:55 PM |
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I just wanted to know which, if any, vaccines should be given and if they were necessary. I appreciate everyone's input and advice
The problem is there is a wide variation in opinions on this subject. Many people feel ANY vaccine is too many and refuse to give them. For some, rabies only. Others use distemper, parvo and rabies only. Some people give everything.
Some give a 3 shot puppy series, and one year booster. There is a growing number of people who think wait until the dog is a year old and just give one dose of the desired vaccine. Many have unvaccinated dogs who titer protected from parvo and distemper.
It is a highly personal and complicated decision.
As to heart worm, I asked my vet when Leonidas was little, and they said we don't have much risk here. So they don't give it. Plus, realize that the preventive isn't really a preventive. It doesn't stop the dog from getting the mosquito bite, it doesn't stop the microfilia from growing in the blood. It just kills them once a month when you give the dose, if they are there. Many people choose to do a heartworm test twice yearly, and catch the infection at an early treatable stage, then give the meds as a cure instead of giving monthly doses of poison that the dog may not even need. Again, a highly personal choice.
Only you can decide what's best for your dogs. Read and learn all you can, then do what feels right for you.
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