Quote: Joyce Salazar

Connie, I am using the Malaseb shampoo and also the Malaseb pledgets for Kodi. .... I would love to hear more about your bathing tips Connie.

That's what I use. Both the shampoo and the jar of pledgets. I settled on them after trying most of the brands I found.

I have to leave but will post back a little later.

I wonder if this guy will get into any trouble for his claims considering what you just said about the EPA?
I did not know that, so thank you for sharing that info.
I have not yet tried Neem oil. I was thinking about getting some off the LB site made by Azmira to try.

I don't know if he will get in any trouble or not, but I would say it is not likely as he is supposedly using natural products and they have bigger fish to fry.

For me it speaks to the ethics, especially when combined with all the claims he is making like it kills everything but won't harm bees or ladybugs etc.

Well, I can not say anything in regards to your specific questions because I do not know the answers. But, I did find the excerpt of the radio show did explain how it worked. It sounded good but, then again, I was not aware of the EPA thing either.
If you get a chance, see if you can find were you listen to the interview of him on the radio show, Holistic Pets and Vets, from the Shirley's Wellness Cafe because it might explain it much better than I did. It was my impression that it was this vrey specific type cedar oil, and nothing chemical added.
It might not change your mind at all, but I thought it was a very interesting interview.

Connie, I believe that this is the page that I read up on this one particular cedar oil and just down the page is the radio show link that is Holistic Pets and Vets.
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/pestcontrol.htm#fleas
I also searched more and found the cedarcidestore.com, which has all the products for dogs, people and home/yard use.
Hope this is helpful.

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BEST YET Bio solution creates an instant metabolic reaction that triggers a suffocation response in the parasite. The formulation is considered a minimum risk pesticide, and exempt from registration by the EPA, and DOES NOT require a prescription. BEST YET is provided in quart and gallon size containers for topical spray applications, and can be safely, and generously applied to your pet….as well as to furniture, carpets, hardwood floors or other surface types. There has been no evidence of noticeable staining, or undesirable residue, created with such treatment. BEST YET can be safely applied in the home, on people, including children and the elderly, domestic pets, including newborn kittens and puppies, farm animals, and other warm blooded animal species.

I just found this inside one of the links of Shirley's Wellness Cafe. It appears that this is why they don't have to worry about the EPA, and why I still want to try this product.

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 Quote: Joyce Salazar

.... But what I didn't see coming was that he also has a bunch of yeast cells present! .... Connie, I am using the Malaseb shampoo and also the Malaseb pledgets for Kodi. .... I would love to hear more about your bathing tips Connie.

That's what I use for topicals for yeast. Both the shampoo and the jar of pledgets. I settled on them after trying most of the brands I found.

I have to leave but will post back a little later.

Dog in bathtub. High-value treats ready.

Regular Maloseb bath and rinse. Then, with empty tub, re-lather the bad spots. Play, train, treat, in order to keep the dog in the tub with the stuff on the bad spots. THEN rinse very very well and blot dry very very well.

That lather left on to work for a bit is amazingly useful. I am grateful to the person who told me that (here), years ago. Cindy, maybe, or Sarah.

Hi Connie, thanks for getting back to me about the bath tips.
I have been leaving the Malaseb bath on for 10 minutes and rinsing out. So, in addition, after rinsing you want me to treat the areas of trouble spots again? Rinse out really well and then blot dry really well. Is this correct?
I really want to take advantage of making full use of the active ingredients in there for the full treatment, so that sounds like a good idea. I have been using treats to help him stay in the bath
I also used my blow dryer on cool setting only and dried the area off so no water would remain.(trouble spots on Kodi)
Also, I have found that this shampoo has been very helpful with Kaia too and I suspect that some of her itching has been yeast related( she had a faint odor to her and had a slightly greasy coat recently. So far, I have noticed that she doesn't appear to be having any red bumps since I started using this shampoo on her. Like you had said earlier, that one being out of balance(bacteria) often let's another one in the door(yeast)
or vice versa.

 Quote: joyce salazar

Hi Connie, thanks for getting back to me about the bath tips.
I have been leaving the Malaseb bath on for 10 minutes and rinsing out. So, in addition, after rinsing you want me to treat the areas of trouble spots again? Rinse out really well and then blot dry really well. Is this correct?
I really want to take advantage of making full use of the active ingredients in there for the full treatment, so that sounds like a good idea. I have been using treats to help him stay in the bath
I also used my blow dryer on cool setting only and dried the area off so no water would remain.(trouble spots on Kodi)
Also, I have found that this shampoo has been very helpful with Kaia too and I suspect that some of her itching has been yeast related( she had a faint odor to her and had a slightly greasy coat recently. So far, I have noticed that she doesn't appear to be having any red bumps since I started using this shampoo on her. Like you had said earlier, that one being out of balance(bacteria) often let's another one in the door(yeast)
or vice versa.

Greasy (or waxy) with odor* are some classic yeast signs.

You're doing great! I might just add that the all-over bath (which is a tad drying) may not have to be 10 minutes lathered up. If you can add ten minutes with the trouble spots, the all-over bath might be shorter.

But OTOH, don't fix it if it ain't broke. And you don't want to gyp any trouble spots of their ten minutes .... so however it works best for you, I'd say.

And keep watching. You don't want to let a spot get away from you if you start extra time on trouble-spots.

The cool hairdryer is brilliant! My yeasty dogs had their trouble spots in groin creases and armpits, so I was blotting more, but if the area is fur-covered, then that's a great idea!

I totally agree: Give topicals all the chance you can, and not just a lick-and-a-promise.


*Nothing to do with you, Joyce, but a side note: I hope that one thing this excellent forum has put to rest is that there is a natural bad smell to dogs. Filth, yeah. Rolling-in-roadkill, yeah. But healthy dogs on appropriate food do not manufacture that so-called "doggy" smell that so many owners seem to think just comes with the territory. That is either inappropriate food or something wrong, inside or on the skin, whether it's chronic or acute.

JMHO.

Thank you Connie, I really appreciate your wisdom and advice.
I started noticing her odor recently, because Kodi did not have that smell. His yeast appears to be located just in his groin area, and I believe that this treatment will nip both the bacteria as well as the yeast.
But Kaia, she definitely had an odor that I know is not supposed to be there, especially being raw fed.
This week, there has been a real improvement with her itching, and I am able to control it with the antihistamines 8mgs of chlorpheniramine morning and 8mgs at night.
It appears that also the homeopathy as well as chinese herbs are helping too. So a combination of all these seems to be doing the trick.
This Is an excellent forum and I am so grateful for it.
I continue to learn so much, it really is never ending, the knowledge that can be shared. You are the BEST Connie!