I have no idea how well they work, but you can get bark collars for around $30-40/ea. at WallyWorld. You could get two and put them on the outside dogs.

 Quote: Betty Waldron

I read that in the FAQ but am hesitant to believe it. And what if windows are open?

I have several concerns about it and it's effect on all animals. If I am going to use something to correct my dog, I want to to be able to correct only the dog I want to correct and I also want to control the correction.

Yeah, I'm not crazy about these things at all.
I once had a neighbor who tried to use one of these devices. It actually made one of MY dogs bark a LOT. Out of the four dogs I had at the time he was the only one reacting, but he was reacting to a fairly extreme degree. The barking became more edgy and intense as time went on. It took me awhile to figure out what the problem was.

Eventually I went over to my neighbor's house (he was my only neighbor at that time) to try and brainstorm the problem. I thought there was a bear or something in the area that might cause my dog to be edgy. He told me he bought a bark control device because his dogs were barking a lot too. I did the math and realized my dog started freaking out at around the same time he bought the bark-controller. I asked him not to use it for a few days to see if it helped, and sure enough, my dog settled down.

Fortunately the neighbor was a good guy and returned the device, so it was never a problem again.

I hate nuisance barking, but think that individual bark collars are the way to go. That way, only those who need them wear them, and each dog can get a correction that is appropriate for it as an individual.

I don't really trust the Wally-world collars to give a consistent correction. I like to be able to adjust the level too. As much as I loath spending money, I will spend it for reputable/reliable electronics, especially if it's something I put on my doggie.

Kristel, they say that on the site, too, I read. Dogs will bark MORE at first b/c they don't "get it" that their barking causes it. I guess these don't worry me as much as some people b/c I have my doubts as to how well they actually work...I just kind of feel like we'd see more effects if they had extreme reactions...or maybe just not that many people have them. I dunno.

I always tend to be on the dog's side, but I can see where a neighbor of a really irresponsible dog owner would get frustrated and try one. I doubt most people think about how they're cruel; most people think bark and e-collars are cruel! The effects of a sound would probably not occur to a "non-dog person." I guess the best thing to do still is to keep your dogs quiet and not irritate the neighbors.

Personally, I love it when my neighbors' dogs flip out. It really reinforces to everyone how good mine are...especially considering there are twice as many of them! LOL.

I think that Kristel was saying that the neighbor bought it for his dogs and it made her dog start barking (and escalate).

My grandfather swears up and down, he had a neighbor who put one of these things up.

Within a month, another dog in the neighborhood attacked and killed it's owner.

The sound drove the dog neurotic.

 Quote: alyssa myracle

My grandfather swears up and down, he had a neighbor who put one of these things up.

Within a month, another dog in the neighborhood attacked and killed it's owner.

The sound drove the dog neurotic.

The driven-neurotic part doesn't sound unbelievable to me. First another dog barks (so a stressor already) and then the non-barker is "corrected."

I don't much care if most dogs or some dogs or almost every dog ignores it (which I don't imagine is true, because if it was true, how would the device work?); if my dog was being corrected out of nowhere for nothing by a random neighbor, I'd be extremely angry. If my dog was suffering to the point of anxiety over it, I'd be beyond angry.

There are not many posters on this thread, but at least two of them have had personal bad experiences with this.

That's plenty for me.

I would guess that there will be a catchup of legality to technology, but I hope it's sometime before many neighbors inadvertently damage dogs whose owners have no idea what is happening or what is wrong with their dogs. JMHO.

Not only that, don't be so sure the neighbor who puts one up to control someone else's dogs is all that reasonable a person either. There are plenty of difficult and unreasonable people out there, especially when it comes to dogs.

I never heard of this device, but I don't like the idea of it at all. Imagine my dog receiving a random correction because another dog barked. How absurd. And the 75 foot range is way too close for us in the NY suburbs.

 Quote: Connie Sutherland

I think that Kristel was saying that the neighbor bought it for his dogs and it made her dog start barking (and escalate).

Yes, he bought it for his dogs. Mine never had a problem with barking until he bought the device, thinking that his dogs' barking might bother me. He was just trying to be a good neighbor, but it backfired

In the end we both decided that neither one of us was bothered at all by the others' dogs, so the device had no purpose, anyway.

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 Quote: alyssa myracle

My grandfather swears up and down, he had a neighbor who put one of these things up.

Within a month, another dog in the neighborhood attacked and killed it's owner.

The sound drove the dog neurotic.

The driven-neurotic part doesn't sound unbelievable to me. First another dog barks (so a stressor already) and then the non-barker is "corrected."

I don't much care if most dogs or some dogs or almost every dog ignores it (which I don't imagine is true, because if it was true, how would the device work?); if my dog was being corrected out of nowhere for nothing by a random neighbor, I'd be extremely angry. If my dog was suffering to the point of anxiety over it, I'd be beyond angry.

There are not many posters on this thread, but at least two of them have had personal bad experiences with this.

That's plenty for me.

I would guess that there will be a catchup of legality to technology, but I hope it's sometime before many neighbors inadvertently damage dogs whose owners have no idea what is happening or what is wrong with their dogs. JMHO.

110% in agreement. Random corrections for nothing are just torture, IMHO. My neighbor meant well, and ultimately got rid of the device, but had it been a different scenario, I would be LIVID. My dog that was effected was a complete mess...it was horrible.

Lord Kristel, I'm happy it turned out as well as it did for you and that you were able to find the problem.

To me it is no different then a dog being zapped out of nowhere for no reason at all.

I doubt their effectiveness also in an area with multiple dogs. The "correction" is not being linked to the behavior so how the hell could it work?

The scary part is how many people buy this device with the best of intentions?