Connie Sutherland wrote 08/02/2009 01:51 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #248883 - 08/02/2009 01:51 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	BTW, as far as how much non-commercial raw and how much premix goes, I would not be worrying much about that ratio or balance in general right now. Right now is the time to slowly introduce the RMBs in the way that avoids all G.I. surprise. So if your aim is, say, half pre-mix and half non-commercial (or whatever), it's more important right now to keep the RMBs peeled (of fat/skin) for a couple of days until you see perfect poop and to keep the meals on the small side, also until you see perfect poop. Diarrhea isn't at all a "usual" side effect of the switch. It can definitely be avoided, and IMO that's well worth any loss of balance for a couple or a few days. Good job!
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Doug Alcorn wrote 08/02/2009 06:53 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #248909 - 08/02/2009 06:53 PM
Doug Alcorn Webboard User Reg: 09-03-2007 Posts: 221 Loc: Cincinnati, OH Offline	As I said earlier, I'd cut the quarters into the right portion sizes and then give them to her bone/meat and all. Let her figure out how to eat them. It won't take her long. Suzzie, the Australian Shepherd
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Jasmine Dillon wrote 08/03/2009 11:06 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Doug Alcorn ] #249018 - 08/03/2009 11:06 PM
Jasmine Dillon Webboard User Reg: 04-24-2009 Posts: 289 Loc: Colorado Offline	I gave her 1/4 lb of a leg quarter tonight and all went well! She consumed it without problem and seemed to rather enjoy it once she got the bone cracking thing down. I fed it to her in her crate. She removed the leg from the bowl and had it in various places in the crate until she settled down and chewed it up...which caused me to think of another question. What do you all do to clean up after your dogs if you feed inside (in the kitchen, for instance) or in the crate? Do you disinfect after every feeding? Once a day? I know some people feed outside as well. Today I just wiped down the crate pan with a bit of disinfectant. What about cleaning the dog? For example, she got some blood on her paws. Do you all just let the dog clean it? Or is there anyone out there who wipes their dogs down with a baby wipe or something of that sort? I know in nature this doesn't really matter but I'm more concerned with the possibility of tracking blood or something else across the house.
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Meredith Hamilton wrote 08/04/2009 07:57 AM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Jasmine Dillon ] #249024 - 08/04/2009 07:57 AM
Meredith Hamilton Webboard User Reg: 01-25-2009 Posts: 1082 Loc: Columbus, Ohio Offline	Thanks for posing this question, Jasmine. Fear of gore in my house keeps me from feeding a raw diet. I can't really feed outside, as my (apartment) neighbors would be horrified. I don't have a good space inside, either as there is carpeting in EVERY room. Looking forward to reading replies! Ripley & his Precious
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Joyce Salazar wrote 08/04/2009 09:00 AM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #249030 - 08/04/2009 09:00 AM
Joyce Salazar Webboard User Reg: 02-28-2008 Posts: 2075 Loc: Dallas, Texas Offline	I used to feed them on old towels, but recently switched to using a vinyl table cloth to put the RMB's on. I use the Bragg apple cider vinegar to wipe the vinyl off when they are finished. It seems to kill the germs, but won't harm them if they should lick the cloth when eating meals on it. It works really well. Everybody does it differently. Many feed outside, but I prefer to keep mine inside. I would wipe out the crate after each feeding, just to keep it as clean as possible. I personally wouldn't want the dog laying in the area where the meat juices were dribbled. But again, just personal preference. Joyce Salazar
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Doug Alcorn wrote 08/04/2009 09:59 AM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Joyce Salazar ] #249035 - 08/04/2009 09:59 AM
Doug Alcorn Webboard User Reg: 09-03-2007 Posts: 221 Loc: Cincinnati, OH Offline	I feed in her crate to limit mess, but I don't clean it after every meal. My crate has that plastic floor in it that I can slide out. Maybe every other day I pull it out and disinfect it with an "all natural" cleaner and then rinse it really well. Maybe I should work harder to keep it cleaner, but I'm either a) overwhelmed by my growing list of daily chores; or b) lazy. I do not clean Suzzie off after meals. On the other hand, my Shi Tzu has long hair and she really makes a mess when she eats. I use baby wipes on her face to clean her up. Otherwise, my wife would have a fit with a smelly dog in her lap. Suzzie, the Australian Shepherd
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Michael_Wise wrote 08/04/2009 06:11 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #249063 - 08/04/2009 06:11 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Quote: Jasmine Dillon What do you all do to clean up after your dogs if you feed inside (in the kitchen, for instance) or in the crate? Do you disinfect after every feeding? Once a day? I know some people feed outside as well. Today I just wiped down the crate pan with a bit of disinfectant. What about cleaning the dog? For example, she got some blood on her paws. Do you all just let the dog clean it? Or is there anyone out there who wipes their dogs down with a baby wipe or something of that sort? I know in nature this doesn't really matter but I'm more concerned with the possibility of tracking blood or something else across the house.  Quote: Meredith Hamilton Thanks for posing this question, Jasmine. Fear of gore in my house keeps me from feeding a raw diet. I can't really feed outside, as my (apartment) neighbors would be horrified. I don't have a good space inside, either as there is carpeting in EVERY room. Mine is fed outside. If there is blood, I'll wipe his face and paws. Otherwise, I've never really worried about it. If you don't super-sanitize your dog's junk after it goes #1 or #2, then I wouldn't worry much about its face or paws after eating if there is nothing visible.:wink:
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Tracy Collins wrote 08/04/2009 06:55 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Michael_Wise ] #249067 - 08/04/2009 06:55 PM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Mine eat on a mat in the kitchen. It's an indoor-outdoor carpet mat, so I can hose it off if it gets really grungy. But if your dogs are anything like mine, there will never be a single molecule of meat juice left on the floor or any other surface. Ordinary kitchen hygiene is all that's necessary. Wash your hands with soap and water after handling raw meat. Counters get a spritz of spray cleaner and utensils go in the dishwasher--same as if I were preparing meat for my own dinner. It's not toxic waste, just chicken juice. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Barbara Schuler wrote 08/04/2009 09:23 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #249080 - 08/04/2009 09:23 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Quote: Meredith Hamilton Thanks for posing this question, Jasmine. Fear of gore in my house keeps me from feeding a raw diet. I can't really feed outside, as my (apartment) neighbors would be horrified. I don't have a good space inside, either as there is carpeting in EVERY room. Looking forward to reading replies! Meredith, Not knowing what sized dog you have, would it be possible to feed in the tub or shower? Clean up would be super easy (use a rubber mat so things aren't slippery). With a bit of marker training beforehand - teaching how great the tub or shower can be - might really make this work out perfectly. Your neighbors will never know the horrors taking place!!
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JessicaKromer wrote 08/04/2009 09:42 PM Re: Leg Quarters [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #249083 - 08/04/2009 09:42 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	This is what I do when we are on vacation! Works out very well, and the clean up is super easy! Jessica
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