There are hundreds, maybe thousands of people who read these boards that are helped even though they don't ask. They probably don't ask because they are afraid someone will call them a moron.
Again, thank you to those who repsponded offering helpful advice/opinions. Much appreciated.
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There are hundreds, maybe thousands of people who read these boards that are helped even though they don't ask. They probably don't ask because they are afraid someone will call them a moron.
Again, thank you to those who repsponded offering helpful advice/opinions. Much appreciated.
Yes, you're right that calling someone a moron is not helpful.
It made me angry that the person you posted for went from "in total shock" to later praising the dog for "protecting" them.
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Bonnie - I am shocked that you would drop the ball like this, you *know* better!!
What I am going to say may come across as harsh, but this is an *important* issue!!
This wasn't a training or a behavioral issue, it was a management issue. And you as the owner made several serious mistakes.
By your carelessness, you put someone into a potentially dangerous situation, and a needless bite occurred.
Your neighbor would be well within their legal rights to contact animal control and start a lawsuit against you.
Please take some time and *seriously* think about the responsibilities regarding the owning of bite trained dogs - before some else gets injured!
Bonnie, please - learn by this *one time event*, and keep it exactly that, a one time event. You can never let your guard down if you own a serious dog, not once. You always have to see ahead for situations....the dreaded "what if".
Substitute the owner's name for yours here, and the management question has been answered admirably.
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While I do generally agree, sometimes it helps. Some of us are not good at "teaching" other people. I posted about a problem with my roommate on another forum and got many responses telling me to show him the thread. It was about his careless behavior with the dogs. It definitely made a difference to him. He understood it wasn't me being anal, it was a legitimate concern. Making up a fake situation is useless for us all. But asking for input on a real situation can better help us (the askers) emphasize the seriousness of the problem.
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While I do generally agree, sometimes it helps. Some of us are not good at "teaching" other people. I posted about a problem with my roommate on another forum and got many responses telling me to show him the thread. It was about his careless behavior with the dogs. It definitely made a difference to him. He understood it wasn't me being anal, it was a legitimate concern. Making up a fake situation is useless for us all. But asking for input on a real situation can better help us (the askers) emphasize the seriousness of the problem.
From my experience which is limited, I see all sorts of videos and read stories about people that rush their dogs into bite work when not only is the dog not ready to do bite work but the handler isn't either.
I think what Will posted is very valuable and if one person reads this thread and thinks..ooops...maybe I need to go back and work on control issues first than the thread is worhtwhile.
Making flippant witty remarks is not helpful. It deters people from posting and asking questions because they fear being called a names, bulllied or made fun of.
Thanks again. My friends are Leerburg members and I hope when they read this thread they get something useful from it.
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