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Yeah. I know there's some thought about two ball not being good, but It worked well for the out and running to me full speed.
These "Hose" style toys are his favorite:
http://www.ruffdawg.com/play/products/sticks.php

If I remember correctly, two ball has been accused of creating chewy bites.

Hummm. Koenig + Favorite Orbee ball + Chewy bite on the dumbbell? Interesting.

Sorry- back to the topic of out'ing 13ish week old pups.

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If I remember correctly, two ball has been accused of creating chewy bites.

Hummm. Koenig + Favorite Orbee ball + Chewy bite on the dumbbell? Interesting.

Sorry- back to the topic of out'ing 13ish week old pups.

Partially.
Chewing on the dumbbell is pretty common if the dog has been taught the retrieve through prey drive only.

Retraining it starting at the hold and back-chaining the rest of the exercise usually eliminates the issue.

My dog? Prey drive? HA. He didn't take off after waterfowl twice yesterday. Or freak out about a squirrel? That was some other brindled dog that followed us. We're currently working on the hold, with a dowel.

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Hummm. Koenig + Favorite Orbee ball + Chewy bite on the dumbbell? Interesting.

And some of the softer rubber toys like an Orbee or the Squeeky Cuz types just feel good when the chew on them. He may not on a harder rubber ball, like the Roni Ball here.

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Hummm. Koenig + Favorite Orbee ball + Chewy bite on the dumbbell? Interesting.

And some of the softer rubber toys like an Orbee or the Squeeky Cuz types just feel good when the chew on them. He may not on a harder rubber ball, like the Roni Ball here.

I have a ball on a rope like a Roni Ball. It's hard- we actually used it this morning. My only issue is I'm a klutz and occasionally bop him on the head with it. He does not care, but I feel terrible!

Yeah, I just let him snatch it or fetch it, a couple of outs. I don't swing it around or try for any misses with it.

Two Identical toys Stephanie. Its not to trade up for a better toy. He learns that the out continues the game, not that its the toy that matters.

just so ya'll know i have dropped the whole "out" thing till he is a few months older. I totally get where the dirty bites come from now...and want to make EVERY bit of his work into his favorite thing in the world to do. so absolutly no out till he is older. i need a check list of what to train at what age and what things to absolutley avoid at all costs. guess some of it will be trial and error..but i hope to come here with all new steps before I start them with Ace.
oh and since we started talking about balls...i introduced Ace to his first ball on a 3 ft string yesterday. HE LOVED IT!! yeah!! but the bad news is..my daughter found it. and walked by his play pen. i found out she has it cause Ace started in with his high pitch bark..over and over and over and tried to escape. To say the least it is his new favorite toy and he goes NUTSO for it. oh and after i made him wait at the door i gave him the ball threw it just to burn off some energy and HE BROUGHT IT BACK!!! i was stoked! anyways..hope you all are getting good laughs at my newbeism's I'm sure I would if I were in a place of great experiance.
oh..and should i be worried at this stage about chewing on the ball? it's a tennis ball with little squish to it...but will that be ok till he gets his adult teeth and then switch to a harder ball? that was a really good point about the dumb bell.

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oh..and should i be worried at this stage about chewing on the ball? it's a tennis ball with little squish to it...but will that be ok till he gets his adult teeth and then switch to a harder ball?

I avoid tennis balls at all costs- I've heard them called 'brillo pad balls' There are SO many other options out there, that don't have that texture that many dogs love. I've never seen any solid research that tennis balls DO damage teeth, but I don't need to. Lots of other ways to play ball!

http://leerburg.com/788.htm Orbee ball on a string

http://leerburg.com/1195.htm Orbee cosmo

http://leerburg.com/898.htm Go-Frr Ball

http://leerburg.com/772.htm#ultraballs Chuck It Ultra Ball

http://leerburg.com/1323.htm Fun Ball on a rope

My favorite ball to play fetch with is honestly a lacrosse ball. Koenig can't destroy those.

Just some ideas.