Bob Scott wrote 02/11/2013 01:39 PM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373473 - 02/11/2013 01:39 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Trooper, my #2 GSD is so crazy that I can only train him with calm, quiet commands. Any excitement from me can turn him into Tazmanian devil. He can get wound up as tight as any terrier I've owned. It's hard t even pet him without a calm voice. A little rough slap on his sides or a good ruffle on his head and ears and off he goes! Thunder can get very intense also but his off switch is is much more natural. I stop, he stops! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Tresa Hendrix wrote 02/11/2013 09:59 PM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Bryan Simms ] #373488 - 02/11/2013 09:59 PM
Tresa Hendrix Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2008 Posts: 1473 Loc: Alaska Offline	Quote: Bryan Simms that's something I'd love to see a video of Last night in my backyard would have been perfect then, he did all of the above and barked during heeling. Gotta love em' A tired dog is a good dog, a trained dog is a better dog.
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Ken Easterling wrote 02/12/2013 09:24 PM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373529 - 02/12/2013 09:24 PM
Ken Easterling Webboard User Reg: 01-11-2012 Posts: 83 Loc: The Swamp (Houston), Texas Offline	John, I had a little more time to think about what makes a dog a HIGH DRIVE DOG. Sometimes I'm a little afraid of him, kind of like running a 30" chainsaw 4" from your leg, dangerous and scary but as long as you have a firm grasp on the handle you're probably OK. If you know what you're doing you can do some amazing things with that tool. That incident last week in the back of my car was different than 'territorial' thing of pet dogs like I see. You know bark and backup. He doesn't normally bark at anything but when he does I have to pay attention, because he went from attention to warning growl to fight mode in about 3 seconds. My dog has an intensity about life that keeps me on my toes.
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steve strom wrote 02/12/2013 09:49 PM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373530 - 02/12/2013 09:49 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Ken, you're afraid of him and you have to worry about him around people? No offense, but high drive doesnt have to mean poor temperament. Being aggressive from the safety of the car, thats not a real sign of confidence. I understand it can be tough to describe things online, but this thread is a little off the mark.
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Ken Easterling wrote 02/12/2013 10:35 PM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373531 - 02/12/2013 10:35 PM
Ken Easterling Webboard User Reg: 01-11-2012 Posts: 83 Loc: The Swamp (Houston), Texas Offline	Steve, Fear is probably not the right word. More like a healthy respect. Just like with power tools and heavy equipment I use them, but I don't 'play' with them. A little background on Ridge backs, one of goals for their breeding was to protect the wagons on the plains of africa from marauding natives, I have noticed that when we are in the 'wagon'I.e. our vehicles, he goes on 'high alert', so that I have to be more alert as well. Just one of the quirks of this breed.
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Bob Scott wrote 02/12/2013 11:46 PM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373532 - 02/12/2013 11:46 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	The dog needs to respect YOU and "high alert" often times is nothing more then barrier aggression. That's the same thing you see with a lot of fence barkers. Walk in the yard and their whole demeanor can change. Don't put to much into "breed quirks". Many, many dogs of all breeds will go on 'high alert' in the car. Temperaments can obviously vary but it doesn't take to many generations at all for what looks like a Ridge back/GSD/Poodle/etc to just be a dog if the dog isn't bred for specific traits/behaviors. To many fall for all the breed description fantasy. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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tracey holden wrote 02/13/2013 01:15 AM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Bob Scott ] #373536 - 02/13/2013 01:15 AM
tracey holden Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2010 Posts: 1442 Loc: UK Offline	Quote: Bob Scott The dog needs to respect YOU and "high alert" often times is nothing more then barrier aggression. That's the same thing you see with a lot of fence barkers. Walk in the yard and their whole demeanor can change. Don't put to much into "breed quirks". Many, many dogs of all breeds will go on 'high alert' in the car. Temperaments can obviously vary but it doesn't take to many generations at all for what looks like a Ridge back/GSD/Poodle/etc to just be a dog if the dog isn't bred for specific traits/behaviors. To many fall for all the breed description fantasy. When I was looking for a guardian breed and found the Boerboel, one of the first myths I discovered was that the Boerboel was bred, among other things, to engage and fight with the local wildlife around the plantations and ranches in SA, wildlife like big cats and elephants, as well as rustlers and bandits, and while that sounds impressive, it was one of those quirks that I had to put to the farthest reaches of my mind so that I didn't excuse bumptious behaviour around cats and people minding their own business walking past the house! I think any guarding or 'defense' breed needs all the help it can get in suburban and urban areas where the local 'wildlife' are likely to sue your arse if your protector bites their arse! So I agree with you Bob, a dog, regardless of the breed and the hard wiring has to be looked at as an animal before as a specific breed, particularly in respect to the big and powerful breeds, though I do know some bloody minded terriers I wouldn't mess with when they are on one!
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christy mascari wrote 02/13/2013 05:57 AM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: tracey holden ] #373538 - 02/13/2013 05:57 AM
christy mascari Webboard User Reg: 11-12-2012 Posts: 178 Loc: midwest Offline	While making my first cup of coffee at 5:30 AM, this is what I see. Seems I missed a ball last night during my toy sweep.
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Ariane Gauthier wrote 02/13/2013 06:01 AM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373539 - 02/13/2013 06:01 AM
Ariane Gauthier Webboard User Reg: 11-23-2010 Posts: 817 Loc: St-Lazare, Qc Offline	I think that drive could be seen as the volume on the dog behaviour. Lucifer!
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Ken Easterling wrote 02/13/2013 06:36 AM Re: The life with a high drive dog. [Re: Ken Easterling ] #373540 - 02/13/2013 06:36 AM
Ken Easterling Webboard User Reg: 01-11-2012 Posts: 83 Loc: The Swamp (Houston), Texas Offline	Ariane that's a good description!
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