Two good German kennel is Von Lederheche Von Hochenward.
Spain has a couple great kennels also.
I don't know about Hungary. What I do know for sure is that puppy-mills abound in Hungary. It feeds all the European pet-shops and the Giants I have met from there looked and acted like goats. I'm not kidding. An owner of one looked at a 10month old pup of mine (from Germany) like it had three heads.
My pup was akward and long-legged still but looked like a 4-year old top winning stud compared to his 3 year old Hungarian Giant.

Hello:
Thanks for the information, but I checked on both kennel names via the internet and neither of them is listed so I couldn't find any information.

Hello,

We are proud to announce our first litter since Pangia Giant Schnauzers and Covenant Kennels combined forces. In other words, we got married. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Leika v Hatzbachtal X Bronko v Herzegenhof, SchH3

Leika is a littermate to Leo V Hatzbachtal (2001 IPO3 ISPU winner and 2002 BLSP winner) and full sister to the 2002 IPO3 ISPU winner, Niko v Hatzbachtal. We recently purchased Leika as an untrained, unproven four year old. We didn't consider it much of a gamble considering her wonderful heritage and hip ratings. So far, she has continued to exceed our expectations on the training field and at home. Every dog in Leika's 3 generation pedigree, except for one SchH1, is titled to a SchH3

Leika will be bred to Bronko v Herzogenhof, SchIII who is one of the few remaining Ali v Hilbort sons. Ali is a known producer of fine working dogs in Germany. Bronko is owned and handled by John Hendricks of Pinehurst, NC and came highly recommended by a friend who has a wealth of knowledge and experience in the area of working line GSN's. Every dog, with the exception of two SchH 1s, in Bronko's 3 generation pedigree, is titled to a SchH3.

Beyond titles, both dogs also come from a long line of solid producers.

If you would like more info regarding this litter, please contact us privately at giants@covenantkennel.com.<br />
Sincerely,

Gregg and Soo Barrow

Nice advertisment. :rolleyes:

You have a website?

Oops, thanks for the head's up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Here's our webpage.

http://www.workingschnauzer.com/Pangia/main.html

Gregg and Soo Barrow

Hello,

The Delaware State Police became very interested in the Giant as one of two breeds for their K-9 program. They imported quite a few dogs and had good success with most. Most well known was, Dean Anderson's Bandit, who was shot in the line of duty while apprehending a fleeing suspect.

After the while the program fizzled out due to a number of reasons. Bandit has some offspring here in the states who are doing quite well in SchH and other bite sports.

Around the same time, there were two imports who were putting up some impressive trial results in sport work. Iro v Sandokhan was owned by Storm Bergin of Doberman fame. Iro won DVG championships . Iro was bred to a number of working bitches as well as some "golden middle" bitches. Some of the breedings produced very well.

Lee Pulis had one of the Delaware dogs for a time and did some impressive SchH work with Jago. Jago was not bred much and I don't know of any Jago offspring currently competing.

Lately Giants have become rather popular among the guard dog segment. Probably because Giants fire up pretty easily. But like Richard has mentioned, Giants can be rank and as recently as last Spring, an experienced midwest trainer was in the hospital due to a male that went up the lead.

Currently, the top sport kennel in Europe is Hatzbachtal. They have consistently dominated the national (Germany) and international competitions for the last 7 years. Martina Moorman's v. Elberfeld is producing good sport dogs as well as a host of smaller kennels. The PSK magazine is uploaded on a bi-monthly basis so trial results are pretty easy to check out. According to a German PSD handler, the Giant is still pretty rare as a patrol dog, but becoming more popular due to the health issues in GSDs.

Everywhere, there is a definite split in the show and working lines with a few breeders who are successfully breeding golden middle dogs.

In the US, there is a growing number of people who have imported some very nice dogs and are competing successfully.

The well bred working Giant does exist in the US, it just takes a bit of digging around to find them.

Gregg and Soo Barrow
http://workingschnauzer.com

Ok, Giant's can be rank. All breeds can have dogs, especially those used for sport or PSD, that can be rank. Isn't it a matter of puppy temperament testing and selection that would allow someone to choose a dog that is less likely to develop rank issues. Then, raising the dog in a way that would help to mitigate the tendency toward rankness. For example, to cite another thread, not allowing the dog to sleep in bed with you, being consistent with obedience, etc.

Minaldo,

Giants, as a breed, are rank more than no. THey have always been that way. The good thing is once it is settled it is usually setteled. In many of the other breeds there is a lesser tendancy for rankness and it is a more recent development.

Richard, thanks for the reply. Why is it a recent development? Is it a trait that is actively being selected and bred for?

Since it often begins in dogs that have other chacteristics that you want, and add in the testosterone factor (my dog is badder than your dog) and it ends up being selected for. There are more people than you would think that like rank dogs. The result has been an increase in the rank issues in breeds that did not have as much of it in the past. There are some breeds that were commonly fairly rank (Giants, and Rotts) and now it is being seen more in other breeds that are more popular.