Also, http://www.dailydrool.com/bloat.html
lists additional symptoms (for Bassets, but they are the same for all breeds).

And remember that bloat can be chronic, without torsion, until torsion happens. Seeing what appears to be bloat that then "clears up" on its own does NOT necessarily mean that it was not bloat.

Thanks. I had to go pick up one of my kids, just got back. My husband has been watching him. He says he has just been kinda lethargic, and his eyes are a little squinty, like he is tired.

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You could start bying whole chickens or parts of chickens, or hamburger meat on sale, or hunks of roasts on sale.,

But \ wouldn't buy anything you wouldnt eat since he might be having a food issue
And raw chicken can be an issue with dogs in the throes of stomach/digestive/immune issues.

My pup had all sorts of nasties in his poo and isnt allowed raw chicken or pork for 2 to 4 months due to the bacterias present and the delicate state of his system right now.

Ditto.

If you want to stock up on something for a good raw diet later, you can get the fish oil and Vitamin E, and, as Jennifer says, poultry (quarters, for example) or rabbit, some liver, maybe ground lamb or beef.

The fish oil and E are good, period, and the liver is very cheap. The rest can be used either raw or cooked, depending on what's going on with him now.

I'll ditto that too.

Definitely stay away from raw poultry right now (because of Campylobactor). Beef liver in small amounts will be good for his system (AmberTech recommends it for puppies dealing with Parvo, Dr. Pitcairn says it has tonic qualities).
Based on the reaction of my sick dog this week (she would only eat the tripe while looking extremely ill, and was recovered in a few hours) I would highly recommend fresh green tripe.
Yogurt or kefir will be very good for his gut. Unheated honey has antibiotic properties which would probably be good for enteritis. Heated and pasteurised honey will not have the same benefits. I would only use it on a very temporary basis based on Connie's warnings about sugars feeding dog cancers.

You can make your own electrolyte solution instead of buying pedialyte, here is AmberTechs recipe:
1/2 gal water
1/2 cup oats
1 tsp salt
1/3 cup honey
Boil water, add oats, salt, honey. Let sit 20 min. then strain off oats.

Your dog is big enough that a fast of 2-3 days won't hurt him at all so I wouldn't worry about the quantity of his food intake right now, just about getting his gut back to normal.

Thanks. This a great recipe to have on hand. I will keep it handy always!

However, remember that we don't give sugar (including honey) when there's severe diarrhea. Sugar- and salt-heavy foods can exacerbate diarrhea in dogs. Also high-fat foods (which to me is anything that's over 10 or 15% fat).

And no sugar substitutes. The sugar-free gum thing taught us that sugar substitutes that have tested safe for humans do not affect dogs the same way.

Xylitol is the one that has killed dogs who got into packages of sugar-free gum, but that triggered testing on the others, and it turned out that even the non-deadly ones gave dogs diarrhea in much smaller relative amounts than humans.

No, I won't give it tonight, he doesn't seem dehydrated yet, or until I know there is no diarrhea. Thanks

OK, this is weird. He is walking around a little, but when he stops, he holds his left hind leg slightly off the ground. I know he isn't injured. He tried to get on the couch three times, He tried to fit himself inside the Chi's crate. I covered his crate with a blanket and he went in finally and layed down. No whining, no other signs, licking, retching, nothing.

Why do they always get sick when there is no vet?

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However, remember that we don't give sugar (including honey) when there's severe diarrhea. Sugar- and salt-heavy foods can exacerbate diarrhea in dogs. Also high-fat foods (which to me is anything that's over 10 or 15% fat).

Connie, it's a good thing your on-line. I'll just go to bed.

But first (Connie please correct me if I'm wrong :Smile I'll mention that one of the remedies that Linda Tellington-Jones advises for colic (gas/twist in the gut) in horses is to lift the left hind leg forward and up, and also to apply pressure to a point just above the rectum and below the base of the tail to help them pass gas. I will admit that it is very difficult to find any pressure point in that area of a horse without delving into unwanted areas, it would probably be even harder on a dog that is much smaller than a horse.
Leo lifting his left leg sounds like he is trying to relieve the gas pressure himself.

That is interesting.

Sorry for keeping you guys up, I didn't know where else to turn. I live on the west coast so it's not too late here yet, but I will probably be up most of the night. Thanks for all the advice.

Keep us posted
this really does sound an awful lot like bloat, even if its not full blown bloat.

There is a homeopathic remedy for bloat that i have used in the past, ill have to do some looking for the information.
But it did help her when her tummy would act up in the weeks after the trip to the E-vet.