stacy mcgrogan wrote 02/18/2008 05:59 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: John Malufka ] #181370 - 02/18/2008 05:59 PM
stacy mcgrogan Webboard User Reg: 02-10-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	John, do you mix the raw egg with the kibble?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/18/2008 06:01 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: John Malufka ] #181371 - 02/18/2008 06:01 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: John Malufka  Quote: stacy mcgrogan Why do you mix the two foods? I am switching from canidae to innova. I thought innova was better. I have labs and the shed way too much on canidae. I am hoping innova will be better for them. I feed canidae dry, but mix in some different wet food (evo, eagle pack, merrick) for a little change. Plus also salmon oil, vit.E daily and a raw egg a few times a week. There is no one food that can cover all the nutritional bases, fed every day forever. I believe that if you feed commercial foods, you do best by incorporating variety. (Always reserve a protein source for the possibility of an elimination diet needed someday down the line, as discussed before; that means a meat that the dog *never* eats and has *never* eaten.) Various protein profiles will provide various combinations of amino acids; this is a good thing. In addition, the micronutrients will vary from one recipe to another. And yes, fish oil and Vitamin E daily -- because there is no kibble that provides intact long-chain Omega 3s in any appreciable amount. (Don't fall for the Omega 3 claims when the source is flax or canola!)
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stacy mcgrogan wrote 02/18/2008 06:07 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #181372 - 02/18/2008 06:07 PM
stacy mcgrogan Webboard User Reg: 02-10-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	I was going to feed innova, salmon oil and give a supplement (NuVet). I am afraid that it will be too much. Overdose on vitamins and mineral. Thoughts?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/18/2008 06:10 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: stacy mcgrogan ] #181373 - 02/18/2008 06:10 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	What is in NuVet? I am NOT a big fan of multis. And when a commercial food is supplemented with vitamins and minerals, then I have your same concern. Fish oil and E (and many people give C) -- that's about it for me, for a healthy dog, unless there is a specific problem, and even then one would give the specific supplement. JMO.
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John Malufka wrote 02/18/2008 06:15 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: stacy mcgrogan ] #181375 - 02/18/2008 06:15 PM
John Malufka Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2007 Posts: 202 Loc: Calumet City,IL Offline	Quote: stacy mcgrogan John, do you mix the raw egg with the kibble? Yes, I give 2 meals a day 2 cups kibble with half a can of wet each feeding. I usually mix egg on one meal sometimes some chicken livers or venison mixed in. I do the salmon and E in one meal (2 tsp oil and 1 400IU E)
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stacy mcgrogan wrote 02/18/2008 06:15 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #181376 - 02/18/2008 06:15 PM
stacy mcgrogan Webboard User Reg: 02-10-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	I am new and don't know how to give you a link. Sorry for the trouble. You can go to NuVet labs.com. It has vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, etc. I am changing to innova from canidae....not happy with my labs coats.
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Carol Boche wrote 02/18/2008 06:17 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #181377 - 02/18/2008 06:17 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland What is in NuVet? I am NOT a big fan of multis. And when a commercial food is supplemented with vitamins and minerals, then I have your same concern. Fish oil and E (and many people give C) -- that's about it for me, for a healthy dog, unless there is a specific problem, and even then one would give the specific supplement. JMO. I am with Connie, except for, I do not give Vitamin C but I do give kelp and alfalfa. These are inexpensive supplements that help these things: Kelp/Alfalfa (scroll up to see Kelp) Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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John Malufka wrote 02/18/2008 06:17 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #181378 - 02/18/2008 06:17 PM
John Malufka Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2007 Posts: 202 Loc: Calumet City,IL Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland What is in NuVet? I am NOT a big fan of multis. And when a commercial food is supplemented with vitamins and minerals, then I have your same concern. Fish oil and E (and many people give C) -- that's about it for me, for a healthy dog, unless there is a specific problem, and even then one would give the specific supplement. JMO. Connie what does the extra C do for dogs?
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John Malufka wrote 02/18/2008 06:18 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: John Malufka ] #181379 - 02/18/2008 06:18 PM
John Malufka Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2007 Posts: 202 Loc: Calumet City,IL Offline	http://www.nuvet.com/
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/18/2008 06:24 PM Re: opinions on this food [Re: John Malufka ] #181380 - 02/18/2008 06:24 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: John Malufka Connie what does the extra C do for dogs? I personally don't give C to healthy dogs, but that is NOT universal. I'm considering it, anyway. Reading up on C for dogs with no dysplasia, etc. There are conditions for which ester C has been shown to be *very* beneficial, despite the dog's ability to make C (unlike us). http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0039.htm Also, I don't have puppies, so I'm not the best person to ask about C (since I have read many times about benefits to growing dogs of extra C).
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