Connie Sutherland wrote 05/02/2008 04:57 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Maisha Butler ] #193163 - 05/02/2008 04:57 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Maisha Butler I wish I had discovered this forum with our last dog. I'd have to say that IME this is the best feeding forum on the 'net, and it isn't even devoted just to feeding. To be the best training AND feeding forum is a pretty good accomplishment. Cindy's Q&A on Leerburg and the photos of her kennel meals really make so much so clear, especially for new-to-fresh owners. This board is also on top of the newest research with regard to essential fatty acids, allergies, overvaccination, and a lot of other health-care factors. One-stop shopping.
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Maisha Butler wrote 05/03/2008 03:27 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #193261 - 05/03/2008 03:27 PM
Maisha Butler Webboard User Reg: 01-12-2008 Posts: 372 Loc: High Desert, California Offline	I just want to get some reassurance. We picked up our puppy yesterday afternoon. He hadn't eaten since that morning so we fed him ground turkey. He didn't really eat any of it. This morning we fed him and he ate most of it but he didn't finish. And this afternoon we fed him again and he ate but didn't finish. I think it's partly due to being distracted. He's looking around and watching us more than eating. We're going to start him on RMBs next week. He pooped after he ate this morning and it looked fine. I guess I'm wondering if he will eventually finish his food and will he enjoy it. He's a male GSD and we're feeding him 1.7 pounds a day. Does that sound okay?
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Debbie Bruce wrote 05/03/2008 03:56 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Maisha Butler ] #193268 - 05/03/2008 03:56 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	Give him a few days to get settled, if his weight is good I wouldn't be too picky about the quantities he is eating, within reason. Unless a dog is sick they will usually eat what they need. You do need to be concerned with meat to bone ratios, especially if you have to add a calcium source to the meat you feed. You also need to make sure that puppies are getting enough fat in their diet, they will need more than most adult dogs. I prefer to avoid feeding any poultry to puppies who are stressed or sick (going to a new home, vaccinations, etc) because of campylobacter which can mimic parvo.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/03/2008 04:34 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Maisha Butler ] #193271 - 05/03/2008 04:34 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Maisha Butler I just want to get some reassurance. We picked up our puppy yesterday afternoon. He hadn't eaten since that morning so we fed him ground turkey. He didn't really eat any of it. This morning we fed him and he ate most of it but he didn't finish. And this afternoon we fed him again and he ate but didn't finish. I think it's partly due to being distracted. He's looking around and watching us more than eating. We're going to start him on RMBs next week. He pooped after he ate this morning and it looked fine. I guess I'm wondering if he will eventually finish his food and will he enjoy it. He's a male GSD and we're feeding him 1.7 pounds a day. Does that sound okay? 1. How much does the puppy weigh? 2. Starting with one thing is good. The first thing that I would add (along with bones, such as chicken backs) would be the salmon oil and E. Then I would start including some of the chicken fat. I would gradually get to the full diet that Ed and Cindy demonstrate here: http://leerburg.com/feedpups.htm I don't have puppies, but this is what I do to start pre-owned kibble dogs on raw.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/03/2008 04:37 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #193272 - 05/03/2008 04:37 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Debbie Bruce I prefer to avoid feeding any poultry to puppies who are stressed or sick (going to a new home, vaccinations, etc) because of campylobacter which can mimic parvo. I didn't know that. So do you give low-fat ground beef for the first meal? (I think that dogs coming new to a raw diet have often been eating a lower-fat diet than what dogs really do best on, but I add it gradually, like organs.)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/03/2008 04:40 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #193273 - 05/03/2008 04:40 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Debbie Bruce Give him a few days to get settled, if his weight is good I wouldn't be too picky about the quantities he is eating, within reason Ditto. Even a new adult will take a day or more to feel comfortable enough to eat normally. Also, let's figure out after a couple of days whether you are just giving more than he needs. That might be the cause of the leftovers.
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Maisha Butler wrote 05/03/2008 04:42 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #193274 - 05/03/2008 04:42 PM
Maisha Butler Webboard User Reg: 01-12-2008 Posts: 372 Loc: High Desert, California Offline	Our breeder said he weighs approximately 12 pounds but we calculated 2% of his ideal adult body weight instead of 5-10% of his actual weight. He eats the food but then I'll move in the kitchen and he'll just stare at me instead of eating. I pick up his food after 15 minutes like Ed suggested. I took him out after his afternoon meal and he peed but he didn't have a bowel movement so I'm going to take him out when he wakes up. I just want to thank everyone for the support and information. I'm thinking this will prepare me for when I decided to have a baby. LOL
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Maisha Butler wrote 05/03/2008 04:45 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #193275 - 05/03/2008 04:45 PM
Maisha Butler Webboard User Reg: 01-12-2008 Posts: 372 Loc: High Desert, California Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland  Quote: Debbie Bruce I prefer to avoid feeding any poultry to puppies who are stressed or sick (going to a new home, vaccinations, etc) because of campylobacter which can mimic parvo. I didn't know that. So do you give low-fat ground beef for the first meal? (I think that dogs coming new to a raw diet have often been eating a lower-fat diet than what dogs really do best on, but I add it gradually, like organs.) Oh I miss this. So should we NOT be feeding him ground turkey?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/03/2008 04:54 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Maisha Butler ] #193279 - 05/03/2008 04:54 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Maisha Butler Our breeder said he weighs approximately 12 pounds but we calculated 2% of his ideal adult body weight instead of 5-10% of his actual weight. He eats the food but then I'll move in the kitchen and he'll just stare at me instead of eating. I pick up his food after 15 minutes like Ed suggested. I took him out after his afternoon meal and he peed but he didn't have a bowel movement so I'm going to take him out when he wakes up. I just want to thank everyone for the support and information. I'm thinking this will prepare me for when I decided to have a baby. LOL 1.7 pounds is a lot. That may be the whole problem. I come up with a little under 10 ounces minimum to 1 pound 3 ounces max.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/03/2008 05:05 PM Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #193280 - 05/03/2008 05:05 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I didn't know about the poultry with a stressed puppy. Do you know about Smart Chicken brand? This is the only poultry that I buy because of both the humanely-raised and -slaughtered birds and because their method of air-chill instead of water immersion has been proven to reduce both salmonella and campylobacter by a very significant margin. I can't remember exactly now what the study found, but it was something like 75% less pathogen contamination. I think that Smart Chicken is available everywhere now. Even if you didn't want to pay the premium forever, based on what Debbie has posted about campylobacter, I'd buy it for a while.
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