Quote: Geoff Empey

But you know I just can't agree to saying congratulations on the pups this is why the shelters are full of unwanted animals.

Again not meant as a shot at Stephanie and her efforts. But the reality that lead Stephanie to be in the care of this dog and litter, makes me very upset.

I think Angela was just making the best out of a less than desirable situation. I'm more than certain that EVERYONE on this forum is 100% behind your sadness and frustration at this story Geoff, and your comments are a welcome shot of reality, but in all honesty, by the time the first post went up, that ship had sailed so far it was nearly docking at a far away port.

For those of us with our heads on straight taking care not to contribute to these problems, sometimes the best we can do is try to clean up OTHER people's messes, and small victories should be acknowledged as long as they're in context. I for one am glad that 4 puppies didn't die in a filthy corner of an overcrowded house last night, so I'll congratulate whoever avoided that fate, however hollow the victory.

~Natalya

Stephanie,

Good for you in taking charge of this situation. Good for you in helping these pups, especially when you are about to move the end of the week !!!!

You are a real special person.

 Quote: Marj

You are a real special person.

Yes, a very specail person with a huge heart.

Stephanie, a big thanks for intervening for this mama dog and her pups. Kudos to your vet also for caring for them and helping you to care for them.

Thank goodness you are willing to step-in and give these pups a chance and the poor mama already has a decent new home to go to.

What is to stop these people from getting another dog in the future?

 Quote: Natalya Zahn

 Quote: Geoff Empey

But you know I just can't agree to saying congratulations on the pups this is why the shelters are full of unwanted animals.

Again not meant as a shot at Stephanie and her efforts. But the reality that lead Stephanie to be in the care of this dog and litter, makes me very upset.

I think Angela was just making the best out of a less than desirable situation.

Thanks Natalya,

yes to clarify, I meant congratulations to Steph for helping deliver those pups successfully, alive and well, and doing what needed to be done (going to the vet, bottle feeding, etc), even though she was not prepared for it. If it was not for her who knows what would have happened to them. Also I think congratulations is in order, because Steph is a VERY responsible person who will have these animals fixed and take good care of them, she has done this before. Congratulations that this litter did not end up in the wrong hands. These dogs will not end up in a shelter because of her.

I have been in that situation before, only my pregnant dog was from a gassing facility (shelter) and not a drunken neighbor (well, who knows where mine came from originally). It is extremely tough to try and raise puppies when you are not prepared for it and have no idea what you are doing. You just try to do the best by the dogs, spay and neuter them and find excellent homes.

I also know that Steph will stand behind these dogs, even though she is not a breeder, and take them back if the new owners don't want them.

I agree though, about being sick over the fact that this even happened. I am in rescue and it happens more than anyone wishes it would.

Thank you everyone.

I really cant control cause with her signing them over they wont persu crimanal charges I do that cps was called also.
4 kids in the house 1 a 2 month old baby who to tell the truth is really well taken care of his mother got thrown into this situation by a real bad twist of fate.

But the other 3 are not I give them all of errolls old cloths. And all our old shoes.

And I will make sure all these puppys go to great homes I have my sisters daughter who is 21 older then me LOL wants a boy there are 2 boys 2 girls.

I know one thing I cant pull the rest of the dogs out of the shelter I sure wish I could.

Oh the mom and other pup are home the officer brought them buy.
Around 4.

She took to all of the babys again. And she has her meds nthing major a med to rub on her skin. And a oral not sure need to go look at the bottle for pain. Also One of the boy dogs in the hosue found a home today also. They go pick him up next week after he gets fixed.

So glad momma is taking to the pups so well.

If you lived by me I would take one of the pups when they are ready. A female and name her Mercy for all she has been shown. You are only a couple of thousand miles too far away.

 Quote: Stephanie St Julian

Thank you connie I have her cell she said if anything changes call her she will come to my house tonight

Kudos for sure to Stephanie ... and also to this vet.

 Quote: Angela Burrell

yes to clarify, I meant congratulations to Steph for helping deliver those pups successfully, alive and well, and doing what needed to be done (going to the vet, bottle feeding, etc), even though she was not prepared for it. If it was not for her who knows what would have happened to them.

I agree though, about being sick over the fact that this even happened. I am in rescue and it happens more than anyone wishes it would.

Stephanie keeps giving good Dharma and will be rewarded people always get rewarded for being kind to animals. But that's not where I was going with my comments.

My comments are more for the original owner of this pup having pups. That is what upsets me. What if Stephanie called animal control and got these people charged and then they were convicted of animal cruelty and/or neglect. And not rescuing the dog and her pups. Possibly the pup and her pups could've died I'm sure .. hey they still could die. Wouldn't that have been a better lesson to the owners than ..

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Let us let all of our dogs hump all over the place, it's ok Stephanie or the rescue will take care of the fallout.

?? These people deserve that and boot to the behind as well ..

While I support Stephanie and what she did, I have to agree with Geoff here.