 Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217754 - 11/26/2008 05:01 PM |
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It was irresponsibility that led to this thing happening on all sides. If the puppy is messed up mentally it is the owners fault for buying the dog at 4 weeks old and the breeder for releasing it. It is the bed they've made for this dog to lie in.
The "breeder" needs a string of adjectives in front of the word "breeder."
None of this is the puppy's fault.
Let's focus on how to help a 19-year-old kid manage what is a done deal.
As you wisely said:
...To be honest I would normally tell you to return the dog but what would you be returning this dog to? |
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217755 - 11/26/2008 05:06 PM |
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... I'd still have this pup on Ed's forumula for about 50% of it's diet and something like puppy gruel or The Honest Kitchen Embark for the remaining bit. Keep the puppy in a warm room with no drafts and nurture until 8 weeks. Dehydration is your enemy. After that point you can start in on the video Your Puppy 8 weeks to 8 months. ... I would definately take the pup to the vet as soon as possible, just to make sure everythings good with the little one health wise.
Cari, is your son reading the thread? Does he know about these suggestions?
Has he joined the forum?
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217758 - 11/26/2008 05:25 PM |
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No, my son in not joined to the forum, but will be soon. He's hearing these threads through me. I did read that Jenni said she raised her dog at 4 wks. old, and is flawless. My son didn't know that buying a puppy this young could/would effect him (the pup), otherwise I know he wouldn't have. A lot said the puppy is probably in a better place in regards to the mother's temperament. Maybe that's not the case anymore?
I thought I'd mention that my son has had the puppy to the vet, and is in good shape and healthy. He told me he could have his puppy around his neighbor's goldendoodle during the day while he's at work. He wants to give the puppy what he needs, and said if that's a suggestion, he can make that happen.
I am so happy I'm getting so much feedback on this, thanks!
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
[Re: Cari Hanson ]
#217759 - 11/26/2008 05:33 PM |
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No, my son in not joined to the forum, but will be soon. He's hearing these threads through me. I did read that Jenni said she raised her dog at 4 wks. old, and is flawless. My son didn't know that buying a puppy this young could/would effect him (the pup), otherwise I know he wouldn't have. A lot said the puppy is probably in a better place in regards to the mother's temperament. Maybe that's not the case anymore? ... I thought I'd mention that my son has had the puppy to the vet, and is in good shape and healthy. He told me he could have his puppy around his neighbor's goldendoodle during the day while he's at work. He wants to give the puppy what he needs, and said if that's a suggestion, he can make that happen. ... I am so happy I'm getting so much feedback on this, thanks!
The "breeder" is incredibly irresponsible. 
I'm sure that your son assumed that the breeder would not have a puppy advertised if the puppy was far too young.
So again, my take on this is to move on. It's a done deal, and, to put the best face on it, the puppy was probably in a much-less-than-ideal environment if the "breeder" was letting a puppy go at 4 weeks.
I hope that the breeders here can address this: He told me he could have his puppy around his neighbor's goldendoodle during the day while he's at work.
You don't mean unsupervised, right?
It does bring up the question of who will be caring for the puppy while he works ... ?
I'm so glad that he has seen the vet and is healthy! 
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217760 - 11/26/2008 05:35 PM |
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Melissa,
Thanks for pointing out something I hadn't considered.....Disease.
I think most of us are upset about how things have worked out for this pup and novice owner all the way around. And the ideas anyone can suggest are compromises at best.
Disease is a reasonable issue. At 4 weeks can a vet address those worries or not?
Vexed.
Randy
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217762 - 11/26/2008 05:39 PM |
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I want to add that, as Randy mentioned, the anger that is filtering through in many posts (and it's all I can do to suppress my own) is at the whole situation. A breeder who advertises 4-week puppies in the paper and sells them ("weaned"!) is going to trigger a lot of anger in a board of responsible dog people.
Acquiring a puppy at that age, too, is not causing any happiness, but your son obviously believed that the breeder knew what he was doing.
Just so you know where the undercurrents are coming from ....
Nothing personal at all. This is a forum whose members care about the dog, first and foremost. That's why you can feel good that you came here for help,
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217767 - 11/26/2008 06:32 PM |
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Right now while my son is at work he has the puppy in a pen with puppy pads and a crate opened up for the puppy to go in at any time. He's home by 11:30 to actually let him outside and plays with him until he needs to be back at work by 1:00. His girlfriend is home by 4:30, and takes care of him also. If he leaves the puppy with the goldendoodle while he's at work, not sure if the an owner is at home, but I'm sure he'd still do the same for his lunch time as he's doing now. I'm not sure if that situation is going to workout, but he said he'd look into it so his pup could be around a "mother figure" dog.
I understand why people are upset at the situation, hearing/learning about the importance of the first few weeks of the puppy's life.
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217778 - 11/26/2008 07:31 PM |
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If he leaves the puppy with the goldendoodle while he's at work, not sure if the an owner is at home ...
Whoa! No! Huge red flags for me!
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217783 - 11/26/2008 09:19 PM |
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No no no no,
I would not leave the pup with the next door neighbors dog to babysit. No no no no.
Big difference between a foster mother and litter, and being left with a lone adult dog.
Tell your son to forget that idea.
Randy
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Re: advice on training a pitbull puppy
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#217787 - 11/26/2008 10:50 PM |
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Thank you, I'll tell him.
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