yep your right, I always want to take these past abused dogs because my heart goes out to them, and think I can change things for them and somtimes the damage is to extensive. She isnt on any Meds. Ive already put so much money into her over so many different issues, she has been my money pit. She is eating very well and drinking and before the last week still playing and running like she is 2. Maybe some of it is this new female in the house. I'll watch her and as long as she's not in any pain I'll keep going. This is the first time i'v had this many dogs. I'm learning it is alot of responibility, pleasure and sorrow. I dont think theres any thing that my heart could commit to more Thanks again to everyone for the feed back.

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yep your right, I always want to take these past abused dogs because my heart goes out to them, and think I can change things for them and somtimes the damage is to extensive. She isnt on any Meds. Ive already put so much money into her over so many different issues, she has been my money pit. She is eating very well and drinking and before the last week still playing and running like she is 2. Maybe some of it is this new female in the house. I'll watch her and as long as she's not in any pain I'll keep going. This is the first time i'v had this many dogs. I'm learning it is alot of responibility, pleasure and sorrow. I dont think theres any thing that my heart could commit to more Thanks again to everyone for the feed back.

Is she still dragging rather than walking, or was that temporary?

she isnt dragging anymore. She came in and went off by her self. I put her in the bathroom where she likes to go to be by her self and gave her a RMB and sat in there with her for awhile she seems to be acting more herself now. She sll of a sudden wont not go through my kitchen sliding glass door, to come inside from outside I finally got her to come in through the garage. I"M afraid to let her out that I will have to go get her out of the snow again. All of this is very unusual behavior for her. I wish I knew Dog phycology, cause i havent a clue on whats shes doing. maybe being in snow that deep fliped her out. she seems better now

Hi I posted a message last nite about my older female dragging her back legs, well I was up all nite with her she kept wanting outside to go potty. This morning she was in alot of pain I took her to the vetand they did ex-rays. The problem was she had blockage in her intestines. alot of bone fragments were in there along with alot of stool. The treatment was going to be long and expensive. Vet said it didnt look good for her, she had the worst possible blockage, the nonsurgical treatment probably wouldnt work. they would end up doing the surgery too. She also had cancer, I made the decision to put her down. I feel like I contributed to her death by the diet. I pretty much followed Eds menu, Right now I'm scared my other 2 are going to get the same thing. What do you guys think? was it me? was it the diet? her age, the cancer? I dont know.

First, sorry to hear you had to do that last night.

What kind of cancer? How old was she again?

When you say "pretty much" what exactly do you mean in terms of diet?

I wouldn't blame yourself for this; it sounds like there was a myriad of other issues that led to her not being able to process food properly. I don't think bone fragments are much more likely than anything else to cause a blockage if it can't be properly broken down. If she had cancer, who knows what kind of bizarre chemistry she had going on. Keep in mind, just because there were bone fragments present, does NOT mean that they CAUSED the blockage. If there's a blockage, nothing gets through...not bone or anything else. Yes, the bone should've been broken down better than that, but that's a different problem more related to her stomach acids, IMO. At least from your description, it sounds this way to me because there was a fair amount of other stool material there as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If your other two are healthy, I would not worry about it. I have been giving tons of bone to my dogs for about 8 years. I have 7 currently....and never have I had a problem. That's beyond "lucky" so I feel sure telling you that bones inherently do not present a risk to a healthy animal.

Again, sorry for your loss.

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Hi I posted a message last nite about my older female dragging her back legs, well I was up all nite with her she kept wanting outside to go potty. This morning she was in alot of pain I took her to the vetand they did ex-rays. The problem was she had blockage in her intestines. alot of bone fragments were in there along with alot of stool. The treatment was going to be long and expensive. Vet said it didnt look good for her, she had the worst possible blockage, the nonsurgical treatment probably wouldnt work. they would end up doing the surgery too. She also had cancer, I made the decision to put her down. I feel like I contributed to her death by the diet. I pretty much followed Eds menu, Right now I'm scared my other 2 are going to get the same thing. What do you guys think? was it me? was it the diet? her age, the cancer? I dont know.

With breast cancer, which typically metastasizes to the bone, and a dog dragging herself around, with periods of non-responsiveness, I think that many reading this thread expected her to be PTS or to go on her own very very soon, Debbie. I was trying to say that in my earlier post.

Please don't think that you had any hand in this at all. You didn't.

You can open a new thread if you want and detail your other dogs' diets and their poops and we can help you to assess them.

But this dog sounded like end-stage to me, Debbie.

I'm sorry. You gave her a good last-part-of-life. You should feel like a blessing to her, and not in any way a negative in her life.

I just want to add that bone involvement is very very painful. Also, when the liver becomes involved in the metastasis, digestion is seriously hindered from the liver-pancreas breakdown.

In other words, this sound like it was a not-unexpected progression, and that you made the right decision for her.

Please don't think of this in the wrong light.



I'm not a health professional, of course.

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.... I feel sure telling you that bones inherently do not present a risk to a healthy animal. ...

So do I.

Also feel sure that you gave her the best diet she had ever eaten.

Thats why I made the decision to put her down. If she didnt have the cancer I would of did the teatment and surgey. Thanks for the support. I will get on later and post exactly what and how I'm feeding the other 2. I think right now I'm gonna go shower and take a nap. I'm mentally and physically wiped out. Thanks again connie.

Hey Debbie, I'm sorry to hear about your dog. There are so many things that cause obstructions that won't show on an xray that I wouldnt think the bone fragments could have anything to do with it. Bone fragments mixed in stool sounds like something a healthy dog would pass. I do know how you are feeling right now though. My Rott had some health problems while on a raw diet that in the beginning had me worrying about what I may have done wrong.