Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
[Re: Niomi Smith ]
#370500 - 12/12/2012 01:18 PM |
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"In the case where you mention the state might not have an exemption, I would contact the state rabies lab via the state vets office (everyone has one) and describe what happened and how to proceed."
Good advice, Jodi.
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#370539 - 12/13/2012 07:13 AM |
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Thank you, Connie
I did some quick research, other states/provinces use the word "waiver" instead of exemption but it is written into the Rabies Vacc. law itself so you can pull up the rabies law for your state or province (I even checked Canada); and somewhere in the law will be the exclusion, of course you still need to have your vet certify,etc. But if you want to see the law itself...
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#370543 - 12/13/2012 08:17 AM |
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Just reading this horror story for the first time!
I am so glad that Gladiator has made a recovery Niomi! Thank you for posting your story.
Do you have any good homeopathic vets near you that could give Gladiator treatment?
I am curious if this falls into the same category as vaccinosis, or if it is different?
I know some remedies are able to undo some of the damage it can cause.
Just a consideration, I sure will be keeping you and Gladiator in my thoughts, and I wish you both all the very best!
Joyce Salazar
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
[Re: Niomi Smith ]
#370563 - 12/13/2012 02:06 PM |
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Thanks Joyce, no homeopathic vets in my area. In fact there are only 3 clinics in the Yukon as a whole, and my vet is definitely the BEST there is. She goes above and beyond to help people who show their appreciation for her work, and who are truly out to take the best care of their pets.
I can honestly say, that if I had to bring him to either of the other two clinics, I don't believe I would have left with him.
I am going to be keeping a close eye on him, as some reactions can take months to show, so until then we are taking it day by day and we are going to keep working toward our training/competition goals!
Thanks for your thoughts, and I will post an update in a few months, so any one who happens along this thread in the future will have information in case it happens to be their dog.
Thanks!
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#370591 - 12/14/2012 05:47 PM |
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"I can honestly say, that if I had to bring him to either of the other two clinics, I don't believe I would have left with him."
I too was thinking how wonderful your vet was in reaction and in action.
I've read this more than once:
Its been a month now, so I am finally able to type this story in hopes that it will help others.
I am traveling to Hungary in the spring so I needed to get my male shepherd, Gladiator, his microchip and rabies vaccine.
On Friday November 2, I brought Gladiator in at 4:30pm and left the clinic a little after 5pm. He had a full physical exam and was the absolute picture of health. He then had the microchip implanted, scanned and finally the rabies vaccine.
After getting home, he was great. He pottied normally after we left the clinic, and then we stayed in as we usually do on Friday nights, watching movies.
At 8:00pm the dogs ate their usual dinner, then out for one more potty break (I go out with them) and then in their crates for the night.
I went to bed around 10pm, but my husband stayed up. At 12:30am he came into the room to wake me, Gladiator had puked up all his water and dinner from that night. I went downstairs and took Gladiator out to clean him up and see how he was. My husband cleaned the crate while I walked him around outside. He seemed a little "off" but did not have a fever, and just seemed a little "stiff" when he walked. But not lethargic, responsive and still drinking water.
I decided to sleep downstairs so that I could hear him if he puked again, and I got up at 3:30am to check on him. He was in his crate, lifted his head and wagged his tail - so he definitely seemed like he was getting better.
I went back to sleep at about 4am and woke up at 8:30am. I walked to his crate, he didn't lift his head. I called his name, he didn't respond. I opened the crate and hauled him out, lifted him (all 70lbs) up and carried him outside. I put him on the ground by the truck, he dropped his head and blood came gushing from his mouth and nose. I grabbed him up and threw him in the truck, ran inside to grab a jacket, boots and my purse. Called to my husband where I was going and ran out the door.
I called the vet clinic on the way for an emergency call out, I knew as soon as I saw him that morning, there was no other explanation except the vaccine - that was the only thing was different. I live 15 minutes from the vet clinic, and my vet called me back just as I was approaching the clinic. She had been on another call out, and had just gotten to the clinic - she was waiting for me.
I pulled in and grabbed Gladiator. His pupils were dialated, fixed and he was not responding in anyway to my voice, and was barely breathing. As I carried him into the office, blood came from his mouth and nose...
I put him on the table and vet immediately starting treating him for shock. He was not breathing well, and he was still non-responsive. As she worked, she asked me questions to help narrow down the cause, I told her NOTHING was different except the vaccine. So she pulled blood and ran it, it showed elevated liver and kidney values. Next, she did an xray - nothing in his stomach or abdomen except A LOT of fluid.
She started treating him for a vaccine reaction, with histamine blockers, fluids, antinauseants, and vitamins. After an hour, his pupils contracted and he could move his head, after 2 hours, he could lift his head and stand. But this time he had gone through 2 liters of fluids, and he really needed to pee. As sick as he was, he still wanted to go outside. So I brought him out, and we took some urine for a urinalysis. His urine had blood in it, and lots of it. We brought him back, and as we were running the urine, he puked up over a liter of blood. He was shedding his stomach, throat and intestinal linings, and bleeding into his stomach.
I just sat with him on the floor and tried to stay level headed, I wasn't sure if he was going to make it...
At 3pm, he again puked up another liter of blood. We did another urinalysis, but this time there was less blood in the urine and it was getting clearer. Then we did another xray, and this time his abdomen was clear of fluid. He had gone through 5 liters of fluid by this time, and was definitely getting better, but I was still remaining cautious.
At the end of the day, we did another urinalysis and bloodwork, urine was now perfectly clear but the bloodwork was coming back the same.
I brought him home on Saturday night, made us a big bed in the middle of the living room floor, hooked his IV up to a lamp and the vet came at 8pm to give more histamine blockers, antinauseant drugs, vitamins, and switch to a new bag of fluids.
Sunday morning he gave a little jog around the yard, after I had pulled his IV (it had slipped overnight and the fluids had gone under the skin). The vet came in the afternoon, dropped off some antibiotics for his digestive tract, and some Zantec to keep the acid down. He ate his first meal Sunday night of rice and chicken.
It took him 4 days to regain his strength enough to get into the truck on his own. I brought him to the vet, he had lost almost 6 lbs over the 4 days. We did follow up bloodwork, for which he sat so nicely and allowed the tech to stick a needle in his jugular vein while I held him. The bloodwork came back perfect, I was elated.
It has now been a month, and although he was back to normal a week after the incident, I can't help but be cautious. The vet told me, on the Sunday after his reaction, when he was starting to feel better, that had she had to come to the clinic from home (she lives 10 minutes farther than I do), Gladiator would not have made it. It was absolutely amazing that she just happened to be there, and that she listened to me when I told her it had to be the vaccine. Not all vets would have listened and would have spent time looking at other things, not wanting to blame the vaccine.
My vet was able to find another case, where a dog reacted to the rabies vaccine with the exact symptoms Gladiator had, different company, same vaccine. She contacted the vaccine company, let them know she was reporting a reaction. They did tell her it was very rare, but she showed them what she had found, and sent them the treatment plan she followed. They agreed, it looked like a vaccine reaction, and they compensated for the treatment it took to get him better.
I called his breeder, they have owned both parents since they were born (bred at their kennel) and have stayed in touch with all 12 of his siblings, no other reactions reported, so this could have been a bad batch, a bad single dose, or his immune system was doing what it was meant to do, in fighting what it thought was a threat or maybe we will never know. He had a rabies vaccine when he was 4 months old, and no reaction then. Same company made that vaccine, different batch number though.
Gladiator is now "vaccine exempt", although I only ever do Rabies after the initial puppy series anyway, so that I can travel.
Sorry this went on for so long, but since this reaction is so rare, I am hoping that by sharing my story, if it does happen to someone else, they will recognize the symptoms and make sure their dog gets treated accordingly.
You, your husband, your vet ..... saved the dog's life.
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#373131 - 02/04/2013 04:10 PM |
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Just a quick update:
Gladiator has not had any lasting effects as of yet - although I am still VERY cautious as I know that some vax effects can take months to show.
He put almost all the weight he lost back on by the end of December and he is definitely back to his high drive, active self.
You would NEVER know this dog had come to close to deaths door - his spirit and love for life is unshakeable - I am SO glad everything worked out like it did!
We are going to be doing all of his OFA testing this June - so we will get a good idea if anything has changed since he was 11 months (prelim health testing).
Thanks to everyone here for your amazing support!
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#373146 - 02/04/2013 09:24 PM |
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I know you're not feeling like you're totally out of the woods yet, but this is very good news. A great update!
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#373154 - 02/04/2013 10:42 PM |
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Good news Niomi! I hope Gladiator continues to do well, and best wishes for his OFA, hoping it all comes out good!
Thanks for the update!
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#373262 - 02/07/2013 09:46 AM |
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Just a quick update:
Gladiator has not had any lasting effects as of yet - although I am still VERY cautious as I know that some vax effects can take months to show.
He put almost all the weight he lost back on by the end of December and he is definitely back to his high drive, active self.
You would NEVER know this dog had come to close to deaths door - his spirit and love for life is unshakeable - I am SO glad everything worked out like it did!
We are going to be doing all of his OFA testing this June - so we will get a good idea if anything has changed since he was 11 months (prelim health testing).
Thanks to everyone here for your amazing support!
Thank goodness!
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Re: Rabies Vaccine Reaction - My Story
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#382956 - 09/13/2013 05:23 PM |
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One final update:
Gladiator earned his APr 1 September long weekend and has no residual effects that we can see from his reaction.
He also has completed all of his OFA health testing and passed with flying colors (Hips, Elbows, Heart and Thyroid).
As well, when we were doing the OFA testing, I had the vet run a blood panel - everything came back perfect!
Almost a year later and I can still remember everything that happened that day, so I am still super thankful that he is still with me and enjoying everyday!
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