Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39047 - 12/17/2002 08:20 PM |
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Lisa, sorry if I upset you. However, hopefully made you think. Some of the things you mention are actually going to make matters worse. Giving the dog his own room for instance. Anyway, my point has been made.
Karmen, I am still waiting for your assessment to my scenario. Why not bring Ed into this? Once an accident...Your parents felt the same way before kids as after? I won't even go there.
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39048 - 12/17/2002 08:23 PM |
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Lisa, I applaude your devotation and love of this dog. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Yes, my dogs are family members also. I understand the pain and torment you are dealing with.
Yes, I know you will do everything in your power to prevent any mishap. More dog owners should care as much as you do for their K-9 companions.
Stupidity never entered my mind in regards to how you are dealing with this problem.
Again, good luck, let's hope you prove all of us naysayers wrong. I love being wrong when the results turn out great. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39049 - 12/17/2002 08:31 PM |
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Good for you Lisa. You are making sure your dog is not around strange children, and are supervising this dog with your own kids. Until you can work with a trainer on this - you are doing everything possible to avoid any further incidents. Wish you lived closer to me, we have trainers who work with behavioural issues in my area, one in particular, and do great work. So many people give up and throw in the towel without trying anything, makes me crazy. Very easy out. Keeping the dog out of harm's way does not solve the root problem, but keeps everyone safe in the meantime.
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39050 - 12/17/2002 08:36 PM |
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I am not offended by remarks made here I am only frustrated! This is not a bad dog, she just needs some work. And I don't understand why having her own room is a problem. It is her own private space where she can go when she wants to be left alone or just to rest. Why is that any different than a doghouse? And what else am I doing wrong? I'm told to consult a trainer, I do that, and yet his advice is wrong as well? So just who am I supposed to listen to?
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39051 - 12/17/2002 08:40 PM |
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One of the things you will learn is that the only things dog trainers agree on is what a third one is doing wrong.
Giving the dog his own room, leads to more dominance. First it his room, then it is his hallway, then it is his wing of the house...
A crate is different. it is something you control. You make the decisions. Not the dog. The more decisions the dog makes the more he is alpha. You mention there is no trainers locally. Get a book called 'Leader of the Pack'. It is $9.95 from Amazon. I don't agree with everything in it, however it is an easy read and will help. I still disagree with keeping this dog. As I see way to many issues, however, I would start with that book.
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39052 - 12/17/2002 08:58 PM |
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YEP! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> These types of concerns are never eassy to solve. Love,committment,devotation,emotions,necessary precautions taken are great strides in trying to prevent an accident.
BUT, turn your back, the door is opened. Dog gets out or kid comes in. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Wish you could find a elderly person or couple without children visiting for your dogs to live.
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39053 - 12/17/2002 08:59 PM |
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OK Todd, I will get the book because I am open to suggestions. Is it also available in book stores? And as for the dogs room, it is the equivilant to a large crate to the dog. When I first got the dog it was used for her to sleep in and for when she was being punished. Now when she gets in trouble for something that is where she automatically goes. Just like a child I tell the dog to "go to your room" and that's where she goes. I guess one of the reasons I still have so much hope for her is because she is so intelligent, I'm just hoping I can use her intelligence to her benefit.
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39054 - 12/17/2002 09:03 PM |
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I understand where you are coming from but I don't think that giving the dog to someone else will cure the problem, only transfer it to someone else. Then guess who is STILL responsible??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39055 - 12/17/2002 09:04 PM |
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Thank you Lisa, and rescues thank you, for wanting to work with this rather than pass the buck to someone else.
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Re: Child Aggressive Dog
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#39056 - 12/17/2002 09:17 PM |
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Now when she gets in trouble for something that is where she automatically goes. She goes there from avoidance. She doesn't understand what she did wrong. She is confused because you did something that is not right in her world. So she leaves for the security of something she knows.
Yes, the book is available in stores. Paper Back.
Everything you say, keeps convincing me more and more there is going to be an issue. I agree though giving the dog away is not the answer.
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